Western Science

[John Doe]

Perhaps.....

--- Rcfchess at aol.com wrote:

>  
> Yes, toast is toast, as science is science; I'm not
> saying that  everything's 
> different...but, for instance - to take a huge
> example - the  Eastern 
> attitude towards matters such as death is quite
> different; their  understanding and 
> philosophy about life as a whole is different.
> Perception, in  the sensory 
> sense - no, I'd suspect not much difference there;
> but the big  picture...!
>  
> RF
>  
> In a message dated 10/04/2005 7:47:39 P.M. Eastern
> Standard Time,  
> tristero69 at yahoo.com writes:
> 
> Yes;  science is science, wherever or whomever does
> it....but..." appear to  partake of a non-linear
> mode
> of perception" is crucial - the whole problem,  as I
> see it, is that yes certain schools of thought,
> perhaps having  their provenance East of the former
> Berlin Wall ( to take a somewhat  arbitrary
> demarcation
> line ) have figures of speech, metaphors and 
> similes
> that SEEM....SEEM to be indicating a very different
> kind of way  of looking at the world...but...are
> they
> in fact doing so? Do people who  claim to "think"
> that
> "way" get up in the morning to make toast by 
> "seeing"
> reality very much differently than WE Westerners do?
> I
> mean,  picture it; how would such people have
> evolved
> or even aquired such  radically differnt "modes" of
> perception, and not get eaten by the Lion, or  be
> able
> to recall where the wheat has been stored for
> winter?
> In  speculative writing - which encompasses all
> religious script as far as I'm  concerned - sure you
> can use all sorts of mind-bending or  brain-stopping
> metaphors; that doesn't mean it reflects a state  of
> perception at large...no way....
> 
> --- Rcfchess at aol.com  wrote:
> 
> > The differences between "Western" and "Eastern"
> >  thinking have nothing to do  
> > with science. Science is science,  wherever. They
> > have to do with philosophical 
> >  frameworks  and spiritual outlooks: basically,
> > dualism vs. oneness; either-or  
> > vs.  holistic. The only way this impinges on
> > scientific  outlook is that an 
> > individual  - such as a scientist - may also  have
> an
> > individual perspective 
> > which is  influenced by  his/her origin or
> upbringing
> > in either tradition; but that 
> >  is  outside the bounds of science, which remains
> the
> > same.  
> >  
> > The only other common ground I can think of  would
> > pertain to areas such as  
> > in quantum mechanics,  wherein there are
> apparently
> > scientifically proven (or, 
> >  at  least, postulated hypothetically) phenomena
> > which appear to  partake of a  
> > non-linear, non-Euclidean mode of perception,  and
> > thus would be more amenable 
> > to  understanding in  terms of an "Eastern" way of
> > understanding the world 
> >  (e.g.,  Heisenberg; the Tao of Physics; the
> Dancing
> > Wu Li  Masters; the Roots of  
> > Coincidence [Koestler],  etc.)
> >  
> > RF
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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