The Sadness of America

Joel Katz mittelwerk at hotmail.com
Mon Oct 10 12:15:27 CDT 2005


the problem in this country is the rise of upper-middleclassism.  more than 
any political affiliation, it's what unites bible-humping, gun-stroking 
texas "conservatives" with overeducated, self-regarding nyc culturati 
"liberal" douchebags.  you talk and talk,  but in the end it's all about the 
money, maintaining an unfair advantage, and getting others to do your dirty 
work.  and, of course, lying about it.

real people in this country -- "real" meaning: not rich, but not animalized 
underclass writeoffs either -- may be stupid sometimes but are usually 
honest, civil, and actually do things, such as defend weaker people and 
point out and confront injustice, for reasons other than profit.  sometimes, 
gasp, they even sacrifice for others.

yes, it's bleak.  but there's defintely an upside.  this century is going to 
be all about catastrophic upheaval -- ecological, environmental, economic.  
i can't wait.  close the box and shake it up good.  i can already see the 
re-education camps being built.  i can see my children teaching yours about 
the fragility of the ego.



>From: Otto <ottosell at yahoo.de>
>To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>Subject: Re: The Sadness of America
>Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:48:06 +0200
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>Paul Mackin wrote:
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>>On Oct 9, 2005, at 3:56 PM, Thomas Eckhardt wrote:
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>>>Paul Mackin schrieb:
>>>
>>>>I think Thomas has a point here. But talking about what "most US   
>>>>citizens" do or don't feel is treading on dangerous ground. It's  a  
>>>>very diverse country.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Of course.
>>>
>>>I was thinking very generally, if you wish stereotypically, along  the 
>>>lines of a sense of loss, of a promise squandered, as evoked by  the 
>>>passage from M&D I quoted.
>>>
>>>>If we're talking about American foreign policy there is much   Americans 
>>>>SHOULD  feel sad about.  How many do feel personally  guilty  is another 
>>>>question.  I think I feel that if any other  country were  in charge 
>>>>things would be even worse. If that were  possible.
>>>>
>>>Hmmm, now that you mention it, I am definitely in favour of putting  
>>>Venezuela in charge for a change. Or Finland.
>>>
>>>Thomas
>>
>>
>>Ha. Finalnd and Venezuela weren't what I had in mind but more like  China 
>>or Russia or Japan or in a pinch Germany, France or the UK.   Would anyone 
>>really prefer one of these to be the superpower?  Admittedly France and 
>>the UK have improved since the 19th Century and  Germany since the early 
>>20th.
>>
>>That said, things probably couldn't be much worse than under the Bush  
>>administration.
>
>I would prefer no superpowers at all!
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>Otto
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