bad science/bad postmodernism
David Casseres
david.casseres at gmail.com
Thu Oct 13 18:03:05 CDT 2005
Well, yes, I did misread the context. Sorry.
On 10/13/05, jbor at bigpond.com <jbor at bigpond.com> wrote:
> David, David, David. It was framed as an hypothesis, not as a statement
> of "fact".
>
> Bigotry is bigotry whether it hides under the name of Science or of
> Religion.
>
> best
>
> On 14/10/2005, at 6:54 AM, David Casseres wrote:
>
> > I'm no fan of Skinnerian psychology, but you grossly mischaracterize
> > Skinner's use of the Skinner Box with his daughter. It was by no
> > means a "sensory deprivation" box and he didn't "shove her in and out
> > of it."
> >
> > And neurobiologists aren't thinking about sarcasm, and they don't
> > weild scalpels except on cadavers. What the hell is the matter with
> > you? You're like some anti-abortion freako waving a poster of bloody
> > fetuses outseide a clinic. Enough already. Get a grip.
> >
> > On 10/12/05, jbor at bigpond.com <jbor at bigpond.com> wrote:
> >> On 12/10/2005, at 11:10 AM, Sean Mannion wrote:
> >>
> >>> When i say horseshit i'm generally thinking about Lyotard's clumsy
> >>> appropriation of Wittgensteinian Language-Games and/or Lacan on
> >>> voyeurism and the male gaze -- when asked to imagine a male voyeur
> >>> looking at a woman taking a shit, i'm far more likely to be wondering
> >>> whether he pays by cash or american express than registering the
> >>> 'symbolic exchange' or 'unconscious manifestation of the desire to
> >>> see
> >>> a woman with a prick'.
> >>
> >> There's no question that some of what comes out of Critical Theory is
> >> as wrongheaded, irrelevant or just plain indigestible as some of what
> >> gets pumped out of The Lab. Let alone the misappropriations ... But
> >> wouldn't it be just as easy to reduce "Science" to ol' B.F. Skinner
> >> shoving his infant daughter into a sensory deprivation box day in day
> >> out or bloodied gangs of scalpel-wielding neurobiologists seeking to
> >> isolate the brain's sarcasm receptor? Neither Lyotard nor Lacan --
> >> especially Lacan -- are so easily dispensed with. Nor, either, is
> >> "Science" in its totality, but that's never been the argument.
> >>
> >> And I'll keep coming back to Pynchon -- Brigadier Pudding's
> >> coprophilia
> >> scene resonates far more with Lacanian psychoanalysis than with ...
> >> what, the materialist theory of porn? And what about Kekulé in GR --
> >> another example of Pynchon jabbing pins into the bubble of Science's
> >> grand metanarrative.
> >>
> >> "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
> >> (1941)
> >>
> >> best
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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