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jbor at bigpond.com jbor at bigpond.com
Fri Oct 28 07:29:33 CDT 2005


I think you''ll find, John Doe, that the original post was meant as a 
parody and MalignD's response was tongue in cheek.

Hope this helps.

best

On 28/10/2005, at 9:52 AM, John Doe wrote:

> LOL!....yeah; I bet everyone who read this has a
> verrrry clear idea of exactly what "the Logocentric
> equivalence of the Heisenberg Principle and
> Schroedinger's Cat" means! Hahahahaha.....the writer
> has no clue - merely combining the sexy specialized
> cant of diverse disciplines to create the illusion
> that he actually comprehends what he's writing....and
> combining it moronically at that;let's break it down,
> shall we? Logocentric = essentially "word" or if you
> want, "speech" centered...something...so, so far
> something is word-centered...next we find that the
> Heisenberg principle is being analogized to something
> in or of language in some way....so, it seems the
> author is trying to say that the way the Heisenberg
> principle operates ( in physics ) has a kind of
> linguistic counterpart...ok...nice..but...what is the
> author imagining when he cokks up this comparison?
> That's the crucial issue...if you can't be held
> responsible to explain what you mean when you sling
> hip discipline-specific argot and specialist language
> around, then you can't be taken seriously
> "interpreting " science, or literary texts for that
> matter....and guess what - the Heisenberg priciple
> describes what happens when you affect the momentum or
> position of an electron by casting a beam of light (
> or electrons ) in the process of
> microobservation....you can measure the velocity OR
> the position of an electron somewhat accurately, but
> not both...and physicists know that this rule does NOT
> apply to large-scale entities such as people or even
> popcorn...it a seductive, but fallacious metaphor when
> applied to such things.....then we have th wonderfull
> stinkball " ...a postdialectic paradigm that includes
> culture as a whole"...really? as a "whole"....ya SURE
> abou' tha"?...sure it's not jus' a piece of a certain
> culture...or mebbe the aspects of dance of the
> culture, such as it is, of the Trobriand
> Islanders?....wow...culture as a whole...what a
> concept...what are the rest of you picturing when that
> hollow notion zings past your visual field? I
> wonder....
>
> --- MalignD at aol.com wrote:
>
>> <<The primary theme of the works of Pynchon is the
>> fatal flaw, and subsequent
>> meaninglessness, of the Logocentric equivalence of
>> the Heisenberg principle
>> and Shroedinger's cat. In subsequent chapters the
>> subject is contextualised
>> into a postdialectic paradigm of context that
>> includes culture as a whole.  It
>> could also be said that Pynchon suggests the use of
>> the subtextual  paradigm of
>> consensus to modify reality. >>
>>
>> Finally, someone who agrees with me.  The
>> logocentric equivalence and the
>> postdialectic paradigm.
>>
>> I was beginning to think I was nuts ...
>>
>
>
>
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