"The Evacuation still proceeds..." GR Part 1 Section 1

[Will Layman]

OK, fine, fuck -- enough.

Dude, THIS is what people are talking about with this group reading.

Let it be stipulated:  you are very precise and observant.  Got it.

w

On 10/30/05 4:31 PM, "jbor at bigpond.com" <jbor at bigpond.com> wrote:

> Just making the effort to correct Tim's inaccuracy, repeated three or
> so times by him, is all, and to nail down definitions. There are
> certainly direct references to and descriptions of the Dora camp in the
> novel, though not the death camps or the 'Final Solution'.
> 
> best
> 
> On 31/10/2005 David Casseres wrote:
> 
>> Really, folks, is there anything more to be said about the lack of
>> direct reference to the Holocaust?  Anything that hasn't been repeated
>> several times in this group read?
>> 
>> On 10/28/05, jbor at bigpond.com <jbor at bigpond.com> wrote:
>>> No, what I wrote in the post you've linked is that "the Final
>>> Solution of the Jewish Question' enacted by the SS in the Nazi death
>>> camps -- at Chelmno, Belzec, Treblinka, Sobibor, Auschwitz-Birkenau
>>> and
>>> Majdanek, along with Jungfernhof (in Latvia) and Maly Trostinets (in
>>> Byelorussia) -- is nowhere described or referred to in the novel."
>>> 
>>> Are you arguing that it is? Where? Or are you now saying that this =
>>> "the Holocaust"? But. if you are saying that this = "the Holocaust",
>>> then of course it's nowhere described or referred to in the novel, so
>>> why can't (or shouldn't) anyone contend what is simply a statement of
>>> fact?
>>> 
>>> Let us know what YOUR ground rules are because they keep changing.
>>> 
>>> best
>>> 
>>> On 28/10/2005, at 7:57 PM, Tim Strzechowski wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Rob (Jbor) said it:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-
>>>> l&month=0510&msg=98699&sort=date
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Keith said:
>>>> 
>>>>> No one said this.
>>>>> Email makes for difficult communication.
>>>>> On Oct 27, 2005, at 9:39 PM, Tim Strzechowski wrote:
>>>>>  But NO one can (or should) contend that the Holocaust is "nowhere
>>>>> described or referred to in the novel."
>>>>> Tim
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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