ATD: Re: Brevity's Raincheck
robinlandseadel at comcast.net
robinlandseadel at comcast.net
Thu Aug 17 20:02:15 CDT 2006
Which makes me ask: What about Ruggles? I once asked Michael Tilson Thomas. He didn't know.
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From: pynchonoid <pynchonoid at yahoo.com>
> Charles Ives, quintessentially American, Modern, &
> Transcendental, and a Pynchon soul-mate, imo. I wrote
> a couple of posts for the pynchonoid blog back when I
> was reading up on Ives for an editing project:
>
> [...] I've been reading, and enjoying, Jan Swafford's
> biography, Charles Ives: A Life with Music, about
> another Yankee genius who managed to break out of his
> milieu's cultural expectations box. "Creative artists
> were something that, for the most part, old-fashioned
> Connecticut Yankees notably were not," Swafford
> writes. "Practical musicians they were....The rare
> composers of concert music, however, had to justify
> their profession to dubious countrymen....Connecticut
> men of letters were less likely to write imaginative
> fiction than to be teachers, such as Yale's Timothy
> Dwight, or nuts-and-bolts scholars like Noah Webster,
> the dictionary man....Born both a Yankee and an
> artist, Charles Ives was predestined to a divided
> nature." Pynchon's not from Connecticut of course, but
> he shares Ives' Congregationalist roots, and as I've
> been reading this biography I've wondered if Pynchon
> might also have had to overcome a similar cultural
> predisposition against art for art's sake. Another
> similarity between the two artists: Ives mixed popular
> American and high European culture elements to create
> a native American music, just as Pynchon combines pop
> and high culture elements in his work.[...]
>
> ...and a follow-up:
>
> <http://pynchonoid.blogspot.com/2004/07/offhand-and-fragmentary-memos-show-one.h
> tml>
>
>
>
>
> --- David Kipen <kipend at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > As I read everything about 1893-1920 or so that I
> > can get my hands on, I'm
> > wondering what to listen to while I read. In other
> > words, how would the
> > musically inclined among you complete the following
> > by no means exhaustive
> > series?
> >
> > V. (Stravinsky's Rite of Spring, Eric Dolphy,
> > Clifford Brown)
> > The Crying of Lot 49 (Bartok's Concerto for
> > Orchestra)
> > Gravity's Rainbow (Charlie Parker's Cherokee;
> > assorted Rossini, Beethoven,
> > Webern)
> > Slow Learner (John Barry's James Bond scores?)
> > Vineland (Bach's *Sleeper's Awake *cantata)
> > Mason & Dixon (assorted Quantz)
> > Against the Day (??????????)
> >
> > All ears,
> > David
> >
> > On 8/17/06, pynchonoid <pynchonoid at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > 1000 pages is room for a lot. Wonder what he'll
> > leave
> > > out?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- David Casseres <david.casseres at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > I'm wondering if Sacco and Vanzetti will appear
> > in
> > > > AtD. Their lives,
> > > > prior to the crime for which they were arrested
> > in
> > > > 1920, fit nicely
> > > > into the book's period.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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