Californian Sensibility

[rich]

off top of head, i'd say daniel martin but he goes back to england not the
east coast of USA

rich


On 8/30/06, David Kipen <kipend at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Hey, who wants to settle an office bet? Can anyone name a work of fiction
> about someone moving from California to the East Coast? Or do they all run
> the other way around?
>
> All finest,
> David Kipen
>
>
>
>
> On 8/23/06, robinlandseadel at comcast.net <robinlandseadel at comcast.net >
> wrote:
> >
> > Tom Wolfe
> >
> >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: "David Kipen" < kipend at gmail.com>
> > I could swear I've written somewhere that Pynchon and Didion share one
> > distinction with one other and perhaps no one else: They've each written
> > well about both Northern *and* Southern California. Though perhaps TC Boyle
> > would also qualify. Any other candidates?
> >
> > All finest,
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "David Kipen" <kipend at gmail.com>
> > To: " robinlandseadel at comcast.net" <robinlandseadel at comcast.net>
> > Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:22:46 +0000
> > Subject: Re: Californian Sensibility
> > I could swear I've written somewhere that Pynchon and Didion share one
> > distinction with one other and perhaps no one else: They've each written
> > well about both Northern *and* Southern California. Though perhaps TC
> > Boyle would also qualify. Any other candidates?
> >
> > All finest,
> > David
> >
> >
> > On 8/23/06, robinlandseadel at comcast.net <robinlandseadel at comcast.net >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > "The White Album" is fantastic, and well worth picking up a copy. It's
> > > easy to find in used book stores.
> > > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > > From: "John Carvill" <JCarvill at algsoftware.com >
> > > > Never been to anywhere on the West coast of the US, but loved
> > > Vineland
> > > > passionately.
> > > >
> > > > Just finished reading a long profile/interview of Joan Didion in The
> > > > Observer, which touches on this. May be of general interest also but
> > > as
> > > > I say it's quite long so won't post it all.
> > > >
> > > > Not read anything of Didion's. Might give 'Slouching..' a try soon
> > > > though.
> > > >
> > > > Wish they'd do something of this length and depth on Pynchon. Brief
> > > > samples below.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 'The years of writing magically'
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There is the sense in that piece [The White Album], and several
> > > others
> > > > of hers from that time, of someone looking on with a kind of
> > > appalled
> > > > fascination at the excesses of late Sixties counterculture. The
> > > title
> > > > essay of Slouching Towards Bethlehem was actually written in 1967,
> > > and
> > > > dissects the ascendant hippy scene in San Francisco's Haight Ashbury
> > >
> > > > area with a mixture of wry observation and mounting unease. 'I
> > > didn't
> > > > see a lot of peace and love on the Haight in the so-called summer of
> > > > love,' she says now. 'It seemed like every kid I talked to there was
> > >
> > > > desperately unhappy.'
> > > >
> > > > Was her original point of view essentially generational, though?
> > > Might
> > > > she have immersed herself in the hippy scene had she been younger?
> > > 'I
> > > > was from a different generation,' she drawls. 'I grew up in a
> > > different
> > > > time and my writing was formed by the values of that other time. Had
> > > I
> > > > been of the generation I was writing about, I don't know if I would
> > > have
> > > > been swept along.'
> > > >
> > > > .
> > > > .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As a Californian now living in New York, I ask her where she feels
> > > she
> > > > most belongs? 'Oh, California. For sure. I'm not really attuned to
> > > here.
> > > > At one level, I feel perfectly comfortable in New York, but I really
> > >
> > > > believe that is because it is one of those cities where people feel
> > > > comfortable wherever they are from. The only times I felt a deep
> > > > attachment to the city was in my twenties, and again after 9/11. But
> > > I
> > > > would say for sure that I have a Californian sensibility.'
> > > >
> > > > And how would she define that sensibility? 'Well. it's an outsider's
> > >
> > > > sensibility. Definitely. On the edge of things. People don't feel at
> > > > home in Los Angeles if they come from somewhere else. It takes a
> > > long
> > > > time to get it. And people who come from there tend to have an
> > > outside
> > > > point of view. That's certainly true in my case.'
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > http://books.guardian.co.uk/departments/biography/story/0,,1854009,00.ht
> > > > ml
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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