atd dissapointment

rich richard.romeo at gmail.com
Fri Dec 1 14:24:45 CST 2006


I think the drug of choice for AtD would be Opium

the black drop of M&D has landed
rich

On 12/1/06, robinlandseadel at comcast.net <robinlandseadel at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> . . . .or a cyclomite fix or perhaps Dr. Hoffmann's finest with a
> psilocybin
>  chaser---nothing else really gets the job done.
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Humberto Torofuerte" <strongbool at gmail.com>
>
> ....kind of like a moody or mildly alcoholic lover who still
> gets it done in the sack . . . .
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Humberto Torofuerte" <strongbool at gmail.com>
> To: p-list <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 18:58:47 +0000
> Subject: Re: atd dissapointment
> Couldn't hang with it, eh....wuss.
>
> I kid, I kid...but seriously I think it was the Chums of Chance segment
> (SPOILER!!!!) starting with the book's first few pages that almost killed it
> for me.  I know it's supposed to be parody but I just found that shit
> annoying.  I'm over that now.  Since then I've found many moments of pure,
> sublime reading pleasure....and I don't think you're apt to find the same
> level of insight into the consequences of greed, power, and technological
> progress (or rather the intersection of the three) in many other authors'
> works...and that theme is to me more or less constant in ATD...with this
> one, as has been my experience with any Pynchon opus, ya gotta take the good
> with the bad....kind of like a moody or mildly alcoholic lover who still
> gets it done in the sack (and I don't mean that in a gay way...but by all
> means take it that way if it suits one's particular circumstances).
>
>
> On 11/30/06, bob mccart <lebishar at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't mean to start a flame war, but is anyone else incredibly
> > disapointed with Against the Day. I've read only to 120 because the interest
> > just isn't there. I've read everything else except Mason&Dixon, which from
> > the little I have read of it I expect to be very much like ATD. ATD moves to
> > quickly. Pynchon establishes no 'immediacy' of plot. Instead of setting, we
> > have a chronology. Events move to fast and are undeveloped. Pynchon seems to
> > try to ground the book in the 'now' with dialogue, which is often nothing
> > more than a one liner maybe followed up by a response. Whether the slang is
> > accurate or not, it's almost like Pynchon over the years has grown worse and
> > worse at writing dialogue. Some of short stories attempt different voices
> > for different people. I should say I love V, and Gravity's Rainbow is
> > probably my favorite book. In Vineland I was willing to accept what I saw as
> > this new style of his--mainly because it was so short and cohesive. But what
> > the fuck was he thinking with against the Day? What I really want is
> > validation for hating the book.
> >
>
>
>
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