AtD - Anarchy vs Terror
gp
wescac at gmail.com
Mon Dec 4 21:54:33 CST 2006
I think Mr. Bailey may have been driving at this in his first post.
The mass of people, not aligned around a single cause, yet still a
cause confronts them whether they wish it to or not? Remember, you
hide, THEY seek.
On 12/4/06, gp <wescac at gmail.com> wrote:
> I haven't had a chance to dig through the list, but after getting
> through the Iceland Spar section, I am inclined to say that the
> parallel between anarchy and terror is not as prevalent as we may have
> originally thought. Does anyone else get the feeling that the
> anarchists and the people who surround them are meant to be, simply,
> US, and that we've been chasing a bit of a red herring here? That the
> link to terror is simply a sort of peripheral observation as opposed
> to the main point?
>
> On 12/4/06, John BAILEY <JBAILEY at theage.com.au> wrote:
> > I felt the whole Arctic scene was as, if not more, reminiscent of Poe's
> > The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket, which was a direct
> > influence on Lovecraft's "Mountains". Also has some hollow earth stuff
> > of relevance. Actually I've just realised that Jules Verne wrote a
> > sequel to Arthur Gordon Pym (I love it when authors write sequels to
> > somebody else's work) called The Sphinx of the Ice Fields - jeebus, if
> > that title alone doesn't sound resonant I'll get off this trolley car
> > right now.
> >
> > Strongly recommend Victoria Nelson's The Secret Life of Puppets in this
> > regard - thanks Dave Monroe for donating a copy of this to me a while
> > back. The chapter "Symmes Hole, or the South Polar Grotto" discusses the
> > literature of this period which found in the icecaps an endless source
> > of fascination and perhaps transcendence, often hinting at hollow earth
> > stuff. Preceding chapter is on Lovecraft, succeeding is on Philip K.
> > Dick, if I remember correctment. Also a chapter on the history of the
> > American Fantastic. Something for everyone! Great book.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org [mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org] On
> > Behalf Of The Great Quail
> > Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2006 2:48 AM
> > To: The Whole Sick Crew
> > Subject: Re: AtD - Anarchy vs Terror
> >
> > Jasper writes,
> >
> > > I thought of a Lovecraftian Great Old One or Elder God.
> > >
> > > rich wrote:
> > >> I thought also tangentally of the story/movie The Thing--something in
> >
> > >> somewhat human form brought up from the ice and bringing havoc and
> > >> mayhem
> >
> > Yes, it had a definite Lovecraftian feel -- specifically, "At the
> > Mountains of Madness." Which was also a huge influence on John Campbell
> > when he wrote "Who Goes There?", which inspired the movie "The Thing."
> > (Especially the Carpenter version). So, everything is connected.
> >
> > Although I didn't think of King Kong when I read it, I did get a
> > Godzilla vibe, especially in light of "Vineland," and the general
> > symbolism behind the Godzilla story: nature's revenge on mankind, etc.
> > But for me, Lovecraft was the definite touchstone -- even the way the
> > chapter is narrated, as a journal, is very Lovecraftian.
> >
> > Of course, I see HPL in everything. He's my second favorite dead
> > American writer, right after Melville....
> >
> > --Quail
> >
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