Pynchon's New Book?

[rich]

i think we all have to be intrigued by "readable plot"

rich




On 6/17/06, bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>  Has no one mentioned the Frontier Thesis of Frederick Jackson Turner?
> He presented his paper to the historians gathered in Chicago at the 1893
> World's Fair.   Fwiw,  1890 is also the year the  census bureau declared the
> Frontier closed.  (The territory in what was then the US was, for all
> intents and purposes,  settled - there was no edge anymore, no boundary to
> civilization as  we knew it.)
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> Turner basically said that this frontier had helped to establish American
> democracy and ideal and our way of life.
> So the historians loved that and that's what was taught in schools and
> history departments across the US for the next 75 years or so.  The
> alternative theory was that the American democratic spirit  had arrived from
> Greece and Rome somehow and was filtered through the Magna Carta etc.
> Turner,  from Wisconsin (as opposed to Yale)  said it was home-grown.
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>
> Well,  then school times changed and it was kind of out of fashion to
> think that the "frontier" had anything to do with the development of
> American democracy and culture.   So. onward to some revisionist thinking
> until - oh - 7 or 8 years ago when  post-revisionism came forth  and renewed
> some  interest in  "The New West" (Turner's book.
>
>
> If I was the betting sort,  I'd bet on this as a real possibility for a
> Pynchon tome.
>
> Bekah
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> At 1:58 PM -0500 6/17/06, rich wrote:
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> there was a case of a UFO-like incident in Chicago in the late 1890s about
> rumors of sightings of airships
> the sausage king of Chicago was accused of killing his wife and using her
> body as part of his livelihood; as u can imagine people didn't eat alot of
> his product in the city
> the opening of a famous observatory right over the border in Wisconsin
> dracula was published in 1897
>
> more to come..shit i eve dreamed about chicago last night
>
> psyched
>
> rich
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> On 6/17/06,* S. S.* <ethocin at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 17/06/06, kelber at mindspring.com <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
> > "Turn of the century" also misses the events of 1886 in Haymarket Square
> -- The first May Day march, anarchist rallies, bomb thrown at the police,
> riots, execution of anarchist leaders -- seems surprising Pynchon would want
> to miss out on all of that.
> >
> > Laura
>
> Yes, in the same way that "California in the eighties" leaves no room
> for the zany hippiedom of the sixties, and yet, somehow, it's all in
> Vineland anyway.
>
> S.
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