lift girders

the Robot Vegetable veg at dvandva.org
Fri Nov 10 17:00:25 CST 2006


I don't think it means a "lift girder" - I tink it
meands that means they loom overhead, but not as
oppressive as "loom".  Akin to the relation between
intense volition (loom) and velleity (lift).


On Sat, 11 Nov 2006, Ya Sam wrote:

> It's in the very beginning, the famous passage:
> 
> "It is too late. The Evacuation still proceeds, but it's all theatre. There 
> are no lights inside the cars. No light anywhere. Above him lift girders old 
> as an iron queen, and glass somewhere far above that would let the light of 
> day through. But it's night. He's afraid of the way the glass will 
> fall—soon—it will be a spectacle: the fall of a crystal palace. But coming 
> down in total blackout, without one glint of light, only great invisible 
> crashing.
> Inside the carriage, which is built on several levels, he sits in velveteen 
> darkness, with nothing to smoke, feeling metal nearer and farther rub and 
> connect, steam escaping in puffs, a vibration in the carriage's frame, a 
> poising, an uneasiness, all the others pressed in around, feeble ones, 
> second sheep, all out of luck and time: ..."
> "They have begun to move. They pass in line, out of the main station, out of 
> downtown, and begin pushing into older and more desolate parts of the 
> city.."
> 
> I also thought about the elevator (British lift), but he appears to be in a 
> train car (British carriage) so the "lift girders" would logically be, as 
> you correctly said, the beams, perhaps like those of the overhead structures 
> at all big stations in the UK. But the question still remains, why "lift 
> girders?" Where did P. take this term? The guide to GR (the older one at 
> least) doesn't explain this term.
> 
> 
> >From: "David Morris" <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> >To: "Ya Sam" <takoitov at hotmail.com>
> >CC: pynchon-l at waste.org
> >Subject: Re: lift girders
> >Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:15:50 -0600
> >
> >Can you provide a few lines of context?
> >
> >We know what a girder is (a primary beam in a steel frame structure),
> >and we know what a lift is (an elevator).  So a "lift girder" could
> >mean a part of the structural frame in an elevator shaft.
> >
> >David Morris
> >
> >On 11/10/06, Ya Sam <takoitov at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>Was going to ask this long ago. Just now remembered. I couldn't find the
> >>term "lift girder" in any dictionary, even google didn't yield anything
> >>coherent. So what do "lift girders" (in the beginning of GR) exactly mean,
> >>and in which way are they different from girders proper? (Sorry if that 
> >>was
> >>asked before, but I couldn't find anything in the archives as well).
> >>
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