Ever seen Dylan & Pynchon in the same room together?
Joe Allonby
joeallonby at gmail.com
Fri Nov 24 10:15:05 CST 2006
Is everybody missing the Farina connection? I thought that it was well
known.
On 11/24/06, John Carvill <JCarvill at algsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> "But the only writer of any stature that I can think of who seemed like
> he came out of the same world as, say, Dylan, was Pynchon. Lowell was a
> prominent war protester, but he was also the ultimate academic poet.
> Pynchon read as though he didn't just know of acid but might have taken
> some along the way. And again, it wasn't just the hallucinatory quality
> of his prose, it was the attitude. Pynchon read like Dylan sounded, like
> a well-educated hipster. Which is where I left off the last time when I
> wondered if they're the same person.
>
> With a Dylan song and a Pynchon novel, you always get the feeling of the
> singer/author being inside his work and outside at the same time,
> looking at it a little askance, a little ironically. Both borrow from
> high art and low and the culture at large to feed their art, and whatdya
> know, they're both still at it, a couple of cool cats hard at work.
> Dylan's recent work pulls together everything he knows about American
> music over the last century, which is a lot. It's Bing Crosby and Willie
> McTell down there on the killing floor, working it out. For "Against the
> Grain," Pynchon draws on dime novels, juvenile fiction, the history of
> American labor and anarchism, modern math and science and the
> balkanization of common sense that created the first world war. Pynchon
> and Dylan don't just have a foot in this camp or that one. They're each
> like a one-man game of Twister."
>
> - from Part II of Malcolm Jones's ATD review for Newsweek:
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15841357/site/newsweek/page/2/
>
>
> Heh heh. And 'Modern Times' might make a good soundtrack to (at least
> some parts of) Against The Day. "They say low wages are reality, if we
> want to compete abroad..."
>
> Another Dylan/Pynchon similarity: forget the reviews and the mainstream
> media perspective, forget them. A Dylan album only reveals itself with
> time, and many re-listens. Same with Pynchon, maybe even more so in
> terms of the percentage of the iceberg that's hidden on first
> acquaintance.
>
>
> Cheers
> JC
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