Nobel to Orhan Pamuk

[rich]

Gunther Grass?

in any case, I think Pamuk is a fine choice. we can only hope that the
future in that part of the world looks more like Turkey than Saudi Arabia

rich


On 10/12/06, bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
> The Nobel is about more than fine styling or original themes.   It's
> about international respect for national heritage  and freedom of
> speech as well.    And the winners are usually authors involved in
> that struggle in some way (as well as being very good writers,  of
> course).   *Look through the authors and think about the way they
> provide a very positive image of their country*.   Many (including
> Pamuk)  write about the actual  heritage of their country.   This is
> the current tradition/direction of the Nobel and I think it's
> wonderful.
>
> Bekah
>
>
> At 4:05 PM +0300 10/12/06, Ya Sam wrote:
> >I would agree that Pamuk is a good writer, but not great. I read 'My
> >Name is Red' and was struck by the fact that it was so obviously
> >derivative from 'The Name of the Rose'. When I spoke of politics
> >what I meant was: would he have got the prize if there had not been
> >that controversial trial? My answer to that is: no. But, as I
> >already said, he is young and may yet surprise the world. It's all
> >objective in the end, but in my opinion the highest literary prize
> >should be given to the highest literary achievement tantamount to a
> >great scientific discovery in its impact and influence on other
> >writers. When I try to think of such a writer only one name comes to
> >my mind, ... and it's not Adonis or Ko Un ;-)
> >
> >>From: bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
> >>To: "Ya Sam" <takoitov at hotmail.com>, torerye at hotmail.com,
> pynchon-l at waste.org
> >>Subject: RE: Nobel to Orhan Pamuk
> >>Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 05:39:20 -0700
> >>
> >>I've noticed in recent years that there is a tendency to award the
> >>Nobel in literature to authors who are  write about their country.
> >>Camus was pretty young when he got it too, but I don't remember his
> >>age.  I think he was in his 40s.
> >>
> >>From the Nobel website:
> >>http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/2006/index.html
> >>Pamuk -  "who in the quest for the melancholic soul of his native
> >>city has discovered new symbols for the clash and interlacing of
> >>cultures"
> >>
> >>
> >>This blurb is referring to Pamuk's  "Istanbul"  which I read
> >>sometime last year and which was not particularly political.   It
> >>was more of a literary history and travelogue.    It was pretty
> >>good, at least I enjoyed it, but I've read several of Pamuk's
> >>novels (The New Life, My Name is Red, Snow)  and Istanbul provided
> >>some insight into where those works came from -  Pamuk's mind and
> >>soul.    I'd really like to read The White Castle.   Snow was
> >>Kafkaesque but with love and humor.
> >>
> >>There are probably many authors in the world who could have got the
> >>award,  but in spite of his age,  Pamuk has written quite a few
> >>very good and noteworthy books and is highly regarded in the
> >>literary community.
> >>
> >>Bekah
> >>
> >>
> >>At 2:17 PM +0300 10/12/06, Ya Sam wrote:
> >>>Politics again...
> >>>Although, better Pamuk than some obscure poets. My two-pennywoth:
> >>>he still has to earn it.  Being a relatively young author, he will
> >>>be able to produce some great literature.
> >>>
> >>>>From: "Tore Rye Andersen" <torerye at hotmail.com>
> >>>>To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> >>>>Subject: Nobel to Orhan Pamuk
> >>>>Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:02:52 +0200
> >>>>
> >>>>And the Nobel goes to... Orhan Pamuk
> >>>>
> >>>>http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/2006/
> >>>>
> >>>
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