NP (allegedly)
Jay Herzog
zogboy at gmail.com
Sun Sep 3 21:33:12 CDT 2006
I Don't Care by the Ramones
I don't care
I don't care
I don't care
About this world
I don't care
About that girl
I don't care
I don't care
I don't care
About these words
I don't care
On 9/3/06, pynchonoid <pynchonoid at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> --- Dave Monroe <monropolitan at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > All else aside ...
> >
> > --- jbor at bigpond.com wrote:
> >
> > > My position on the (alleged) interview is still
> > > that at most it's the record of a private
> > > conversation with Pynchon that was written up
> > > subsequently and published without his knowledge
> > > or consent ...
> >
> > Havuing suggested this possibility myself, even,
> > this
> > is the first I recall hearing anything but a
> > categorical, and as often as not shrill denial of
> > its
> > authenticity on yr part. It's been exhausting ...
> >
> > > ... or that at worst it's a fake.
> >
> > It's apparently Melanai Jackson vs. Playboy Japan,
> > then.
>
>
> Where has Melanie Jackson taken a position on this
> issue?
>
> Nowhere.
>
> That's the reality that jbor tried to finesse in the
> first place by making the claim (that MJ denied the
> interview was authentic) and attribiting it to
> somebody who had made no such claim but who was
> instead passing along unsubstantiated info and who
> asked that it not be used.
>
> Please note that jbor is still trying to shift the
> blame for his own act to this third party, a person
> who took care to ask that jbor not use an
> unsubstantiated rumor in precisely the way that jbor
> went ahead and used it.
>
> jbor went to great lengths to try to discredit the PJ
> interview in this fraudulent way.
>
> Fact remains, neither Pynchon nor his agent have any
> denied the interview is authentic, and Playboy Japan
> has defended its authenticity.
>
> >Note that neither side has seemingly felt
> > particular compelled to take the matter up much
> > further, though. Here, meanwhile ...
>
> ...jbor apparently has not finished with trying to
> obfuscate his role in this matter - can't really blame
> the dude, seeing as how it exposes him as an academic
> fraud, but there it is.
>
> The idea that anybody here tried to cover up the
> alleged phone call to Melanie Jackson's office is
> another distortion/exaggeration/and perhaps
> fabrication of jbor's. It was discussed at the time,
> nothing definitive came out of it, and it's been
> discussed several times since. No conspiracy, no
> cover-up, - although I guess it's natural for jbor to
> want to see it that way , since that's how jbor seems
> to operate, planting a bit of info here, making a
> fraudulent statement there, spinning a web of
> deception to shore up his attack, all the while
> yelping about somebody else trying to pull a hoax.
>
> The "clarification" re support for Bush's war aside,
> jbor still hasn't apologized for calling his Pynchon-l
> colleagues followers of Osama bin Laden or however it
> was that he characterized people here who opposed
> Bush's war, and in this jbor thus continues to ally
> himself with Bush, Rumsfeld, and the rest of the war
> criminals.
>
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