More science and meta bull

[Lawrence Bryan]

A nice post.

 > On Apr 7, 2007, at 7:03 AM, Joseph T wrote:

 > Thanks Monte, Daniel, Robin et al. Especially for the weight of  
fundamental physics, that keeps this grounded. I love a good piece of  
ground from which to toss myself over the abyss.

 > This is one of the better semi-off topic vectors so far. I have  
had moments thinking about these things in which I became intensely  
aware of carrying or abiding in a consciousness that holds more than  
the instant it lives in and the seeming impossibility of that. It is  
a feeling of a body of light > rather than a particle of light.

Reminds me of Thompson's book, "The Time Falling Bodies Take To Light".

 > Does light really slow down or just take circuitous routes in  
water? I understand they have slowed it  in a super low temp, low  
pressure condensates , and with cesium gas .

 > One thing I find interesting about consciousness is its  
immeasurability. I t is like another word I like. Desire. A word  
which seems to encapsulate the reality that all life forms exist out  
of an "urge" to transcend death. We call it reproduction but it is  
really more like experimental renewal. Why
 > resist dissolution? How does an arrangement  of chemicals come to  
imagine death, let alone scheme for survival? Where the fuck does  
that come from? B. Fuller thought intelligence might be anti- 
entropic,that it's like a union , it's the one thing organizing while  
the system falls apart. but
 > there is no way to experimentally measure this. Entropy is a weird  
thing anyway. If everything is moving to a state of disorder , what  
the hell ordered it to begin with. If the universe is a dissolving  
dream it seems likely there is a dreamer .

"Life is but an eddy in a stream of entropy." Lawrence Bryan, circa  
1976, answer to the last question on a ridiculously long biology  
exam: "Discuss entropy and life."

 > In the end I am unconvinced that consciousness is limited to  
biology, and question the limits of every language and religion  
including science. It is interesting that humans have almost  
universally equated spirituality with light and a kind of timeless  
consciousness , enlightenment. Goodbye
 > and thanks for all the Zen Koans.

Good bye? Are you leaving?

Lawrence