Atdtda23: [45.2] The other one, 647

[rich]

Reef is not very likable, though he has his moments--He kinda belongs
with Yashmeen, who mirrors him in unlikeability

I think my favorite characters are Frank, Cyprian and Dally after
finishing my 2nd read

rich
On Dec 4, 2007 6:08 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I remember the "affectlessness" of the anarchist bombing and
> sorta thought it was a comment on them.....not good...
>
> and I gotta reread that scene with Lew and Lake......
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
> To: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
> Cc: monte.davis at verizon.net; pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2007 5:18:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Atdtda23: [45.2] The other one, 647
>
> the two scenes I can think of that seem very odd to me, in dialogue
> and action, is Reef and Flaco during a anarchist bombing at a cafe
> (they talk and act like, oh no big deal,as does the narration)
> also, Lew's "rape" of Lake at then end of the book in LA--what the
> heck was that about?
>
> i might've missed something
>
> iI also think AtD represents the world of an alternate map of V. ,
> maybe a way of saying I was so much older then  blah blah blah
> without sacrificing any of the "bone certainties"
>
> rich
>
>
> On Dec 4, 2007 4:59 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Monte's bit of dialogue:
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, I think so: it's hard to find any dialogue that's *just* naturalistic
> > chat, *just* a slice of life, because his thematic work is so dense and
> > constant.
> >
> > Most two-hour plays have the word count of only a medium-length story;
> maybe
> > -- to the extent our expectations are shaped by more expansive novels --
> > part of what we mean by "dramatic" is that more tends to be going on per
> > moment of dialogue on stage than on the page?
> >
> > (I can feel this overlapping with that big old "are P's characters
> realistic
> > and three-dimensional?" can of worms)
> > ____________
> > I wanted to avoid all those canned worms.......
> > and yes, your explication is what I was meaning to say as well as you
> > have.....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark Kohut sez:
> >
> > > much of the dialogue in AtD  ... So often post, riposte or
> > > variation of......like much drama  (or should that be melodrama?)
> >
> >
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