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In the book I cited below, there is an interview with Jaron Lanier. He is a 
key figure in the creation of virtual reality, and the co-creator of 
interface gloves.

However, it is his comments on mathematics, the philosophy of mathematics, 
and some of the relations between mathematics and computers that are 
relevant here. For instance, he talks about what we might think of as 
bilocation in math. If one has a mind to.

(He is also a musician, and the headline of a Wall Street Journal interview 
with him is, "Electronic LSD." Hmm...)



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Page" <page at quesnelbc.com>
To: "Michael Bailey" <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>; "Pynchon-l" 
<pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: Atdtda23: [46.4] Thinking of, 659


> Michael, et. al.,
>
> Caveat: this may not be useful for further explorations, but it is at 
> least tangentially relevant.
>
> Michael--you write that you have a tome, PHIKAL, by and about Alexander 
> and Ann Shulgin. In a book titled "Voices from the Edge," (by David Jay 
> Brown and Rebecca McClen Novik),* there is an interview with the Shuglins. 
> It is quite revealing and fascinating, and I am sure much shorter than 
> PHIKAL.
>
> According to the interview, the Shulins have made hundreds of psychotropic 
> drugs. Good next door neighbours.
>
> *  http://www.levity.com/mavericks/frames12.htm
>
> You have to search through the site (starting with another book, 
> "Mavericks of the Mind") to find the interviews, a page just after the 
> amazon.com page.
>
> Page
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael Bailey" <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
> To: "Pynchon-l" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 11:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Atdtda23: [46.4] Thinking of, 659
>
>
>> Beatrice in the referenced passage is a pet name that chemist
>> Alexander Shulgin (holder of one of the very few DEA "licenses
>> to thrill" people with drugs of his own making -
>> proving something worth harping on for a second: that there
>> is a level of competence and respect that one can earn which
>> will entitle one to do things that might ordinarily be prohibited -
>> even in our society, even in the eyes of the "dully constipated
>> authorities" as a rebellious person might put it)
>> used to refer to one of the phenylethylamines in his book PIHKAL
>> ("Phenylethylamines I Have Known and Loved") -
>> a great big tome that I bought and read the "liberal arts"
>> part of - ie, the biographical info and the love story told
>> by the man & woman -
>> then flipped through the pages where he tells how to
>> make all those things ("take 200 grams of phen,
>> 4 grams of yl, 32 grams of eth, a pinch of ylam, and a dash of ine -
>> mix them carefully in a beaker, over a Bunsen burner, under a fume hood,
>> till they crystallize and turn yellow, put them in a thermos full of
>> ice and shake constantly for 48 hours, serve in parfait dishes...")
>>
>> Really an interesting book, probably more so if my knowledge
>> of chemistry wasn't quite so Trobriand-Islander-ish...
>>
>> "Benny Profane" was reviewing that book.
>> Somebody on p-list at the time copied it to the list.
>>
>> a) why were you searching waste archive for Beatrice?
>> Probably in another connection - continuing the
>> biographical approach?
>> Anyway, I think I get that the PIHKAL drug references lead
>> to thoughts of Oneirine's effects, which include a knowledge of
>> being haunted...and this in turn relates to
>> Paul's cite from AtD of 2 instances in which a character
>> is seen to recognize someone in a generic way,
>> without actually being able to conjure any specifics --
>> and that *is* kind of spooky, when you think about it!
>>
>> b) George M Pynchon - I keep reading that and thinking
>> George M Cohan.  Well there was a showbiz connection...
>>
>> c) Beatrice then would be of the generation coeval
>> with Dittany Vibe? And, I guess, Dally?
>> (rather than, say, Edwarda?)
>>
>> though Robin seems to have taken a hiatus, please share more of the
>> research you seem to be doing if that is congenial for you...
>>
>> thanks!  Mike B
>>
>> "you've got to have snap or the clock's not wound" - Snap
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/21/07, grladams at teleport.com <grladams at teleport.com> wrote:
>>> These hauntings -- so weird. I typed in Beatrice into the waste archive,
>>> and reached this (below) as the first result. According to the 1900 
>>> Census
>>> George M Pynchon Sr's first wife was Lillian, who was born in Illinois.
>>> They were married and living in Chicago, while he was 37 & she was 29 
>>> years
>>> old. They had one daughter, Beatrix who was Later spelled Beatrice, in
>>> 1924, (Just for context, OBA's father would have been ~17 years old) 
>>> there
>>> is record of a transatlantic ocean trip where all three travelled 
>>> together
>>> from Southampton England, to New York. George Sr was 62, George Jr was 
>>> 21,
>>> Beatrice was 26. Featured in numerous social and charity register type
>>> articles, she was a bright light of a person indeed, loved by many. 
>>> She'd
>>> see her brother George Jr, and her someday to be husband Stafford 
>>> Hendrix
>>> who had fought in WWI, die young and tragic deaths.
>>>
>>> http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=9312&msg=159&keywords=beatri
>>> ce
>>> Review of PIHKAL, Tyrone Slothrop
>>>
>>> Because analogies with the ghost-life exist, this recurrence
>>> phenomenon is known, in the jargon, as `haunting.'  Whereas other sorts 
>>> of
>>> hallucinations tend to flow by, related in deep ways that aren't 
>>> accessible
>>> to the casual dopefiend, these Oneirine hauntings show a definite 
>>> narrative
>>> continuity, as clearly as, say, the average Reader's Digest article. 
>>> Often
>>> they are so ordinary, so conventional - Jeaach calls them `the dullest
>>> hallucinations known to psychopharmacology' - that they are only 
>>> recognized
>>> as hauntings through some radical though plausible violation of 
>>> possibility:
>>> the presence of the dead, journeys by the same route and means where one
>>> person will set out later but arrive earlier, a printed diagram which no
>>> amount of light will make readable.  ...On recognizing that he is being
>>> haunted, the subject enters immediately into `phase two,' which, though
>>> varying in intensity from subject to subject, is always disagreeable: 
>>> often
>>> sedation (0.6 mg atropine subcut.) will be necessary, even though 
>>> Oneirine
>>> is classified as a CNS depressant.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Original Message:
>>> -----------------
>>> From: Paul Nightingale isread at btinternet.com
>>> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:15:44 -0000
>>> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>>> Subject: Atdtda23: [46.4] Thinking of, 659
>>>
>>>
>>> 659.36-37] "What could you have been thinking?" he inquired. It was a 
>>> voice
>>> Reef had not heard before but recognised nonetheless.
>>>
>>> Cf. Lew's Bomber-related experience on 240-241:
>>>
>>> Pinned to a cork board on the wall Lew saw a photograph of a shadowy 
>>> figure
>>> in white with a cricketer's bag, posed against one of those noteworthy
>>> arrays of cloud the Headingly ground was known for. The face was 
>>> blurred,
>>> but Lew took a few steps back till it came more in focus.
>>>
>>> "You recognise him?"
>>>
>>> "No ... thought for a minute I might."
>>>
>>> "You recognise him." Slyly nodding as if to himself.
>>>
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