Frost; Hawthorn; Green/Birds; Veda

Glenn Scheper glenn_scheper at earthlink.net
Sun Feb 4 13:53:07 CST 2007


http://www.english.uiuc.edu/Maps/poets/a_f/frost/tramps.htm

My object in living is to unite My avocation and my vocation As my two eyes make one in sight. Only where love and need are one, And the work is play for mortal stakes, Is the deed ever really done For Heaven and the future's sakes. (CP 359) In two separate letters, Frost relates this poem somewhat curiously to love of a woman. In his famous assertion that Elinor had been the unspoken half of everything he wrote, he went on to add: "and both halves of many a thing from My November Guest down to the last stanzas of Two Tramps in Mud Time" (SL 450). In writing about his view of imperfection, he said: "I am not a Platonist one who believes the woman you have is an imperfect copy of some woman in Heaven I am philosophically opposed to having one Iseult for my vocation and another for my avocation; as you may have inferred from a poem called Two Tramps in Mud Time a truly gallant Platonist will remain a bachelor from unwillingness to reduce any woman to the condition of being used without being idealized"

The idea that conjoined need and love constitute in themselves a higher claim for survival than need alone is a curious form of Darwinism.


http://www.hawthorneinsalem.org/ScholarsForum/MMD2575.html
Symbol and Interpretation in Hawthorne's Scarlet Letter

The symbol becoming more and more obscure and esoteric, it finally lost its power to shed light on the world and became a pure sign.

Allegory vs. symbol: the relevance of the German controversy Allegory and symbol are historically two forms of the same stylistic figure that consists in a transfer of meaning: the first meaning gives way to a secondary, figurative one, but without entirely disappearing. Both partake of the creation of a spiritual meaning, and enable the author to provide several layers of interpretation. The distinction between the two figures appeared later and was shaped mainly by German romantics.
	(...more...) Cf. Pynchon's core idea, not revealed.

The alchemist's quest for the meaning of words, and for the truth hidden behind undecipherable signs, parallels that of the reader looking for the meaning of the scarlet letter within a maze of interpretative possibilities.


http://www.anselm.edu/homepage/dbanach/PutnamsModelTheoreticArgument.htm
re: ...even an entire linguistic system taken as a whole cannot determinately refer by itself.

http://altreligion.about.com/library/glossary/bldefgreenlanguage.htm?terms=one+symbol+is+given+two+interpretations

Both "green language" and the "language of the Birds" refer to the oblique writing styles used by alchemists, magicians, and other mystical initiates to communicate with one another publicly while 'concealing' the information from the hostile or unworthy. In short, it is a method of symbolic writing which appears opaque or unintelligible unless one has the necessary understanding of its symbolism to interpret it. The names given both refer to nature, and refer to a concept similar to that of the logos - a stream of uncorrupted information transmitted mystically through the workings of the natural universe. The "language of the birds" is so called because it was believed that a gifted magician or holy man was able to converse with birds, and therefore learn mystical secrets of God. Sages believed to possess this gift include St. Francis of Assisi, the biblical King Solomon, and the the Northern mythical hero Siegfried. The god Odin receives iunformation on human affairs from his twin ravens Hugin and Munin . Many early gods and godesses were depicted in the form of birds, and even today, the bird is symbolic of the shaman's flight into the spirit world. Birds have also been viewed historically as psychopomps, guides who escort souls through the land of the spirits. The Egyptians credited the origin of their hieroglyphic language to the movements of birds; the Egyptian god of writing and magick is the bird-headed Thoth .

http://www.moonstar.com/~acpjr/Blackboard/Common/Glossary/SymbolsDocu.html
--on literary symbols

http://ledzeppelin.alexreisner.com/faq.html
-- symbol symbols meaning zeppelin represent ...

http://www.vedah.com/org2/literature/deeper_meaning/twofold_meaning.html
Adri is commonly a hill or a mountain. Also it is a synonym of cloud. It is the standard symbol of something that is hard and unchanging, specifically a symbol of the forces of ignorance and falsehood.

http://www.vedah.com/org2/literature/deeper_meaning/twofold_meaning.html

A striking feature of the vedic verse or mantra is that it yields several widely different interpretations. This is possible because both common nouns like go, ashva_, adri and the proper nouns like Agni, Indra, V_tra, Vala, etc., yield two or more meanings. Thus one can get different interpretations for the same verse by assigning appropriate specific meanings for the common and proper nouns occurring in the verse.

Adri is commonly a hill or a mountain. Also it is a synonym of cloud. It is the standard symbol of something that is hard and unchanging, specifically a symbol of the forces of ignorance and falsehood.

http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Symbol

SYMBOL (Gr. , a sign), the term given to a visible object representing to the mind the semblance of something which is not shown but realized by association with it.

St Mary Magdalene by a box or vase,

http://www.teosofia.com/Mumbai/7309symbols.html

Next, we find that, as hinted above, symbols have more than one meaning. In fact, each symbol has seven interpretations. "Every symbol," H.P.B. declared, "must yield three fundamental truths and four implied ones, otherwise the symbol is false." Every religious and philosophical symbol had seven meanings attached to it, each pertaining to its legitimate plane of thought, i.e., either purely metaphysical or astronomical; psychic or physiological, etc., etc. These seven meanings and their applications are hard enough to learn when taken by themselves; but the interpretation and the right comprehension of them become tenfold more puzzling, when, instead of being correlated, or made to flow consecutively out of and to follow each other, each, or any one of these meanings is accepted as the one and sole explanation of the whole symbolical idea. (S.D., II, 538)

Why, then, have students of Theosophy to bother with this difficult subject? To begin with, the language of symbols is a complete language, and we cannot understand any great Scripture unless we learn it. In the Scriptures of the world is to be found, for him who can read them with the eye of understanding, the history of nations and races, of worlds and of the Coscomos itself, in their sevenfold natures. There are no ancient symbols, without a deep and philosophical meaning attached to them; their importance and significance increasing with their antiquity. (S.D., I, 379)

Yours truly,
Glenn Scheper
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