ATDTDA (2): Lew Basnight /original sin

[Joseph T]

On Feb 9, 2007, at 12:00 AM, Joseph T wrote:

> bingo. That certainly resonates for me. Its like the raw deal  
> you're trying to get  away from, but carrying with you. I also have  
> a sense of a very strong connection between the original sin story  
> and  marriage.
>
> The detective story is an American invention starting with Poe  
> (though it seems to me that Greek tragedy is often a kind of  
> detection story of   a  soul) and the appeal of the genre  is most  
> obviously about the "scientific" resolution of a crime against the  
> social order. It confirms the importance of law, and of the pursuit  
> of truth. In that way it is reassuring. But what is the role of  
> Detective when the social order itself is contaminated by  
> criminality as it generally is? Many Pynchon characters are in the  
> mode of Detectives facing this dilemma. V, Lot 49 especially.
>
> Anyway  what makes a good detective good, what makes them see the  
> telling detail, hear the truth unspoken? Are they trying to  
> reassemble the broken shards of something. Are they people who  
> focus all their attention on the crimes in the world to avoid their  
> own troubling unsolved mysteries? Is that why we read books? Or is  
> it more like jesus said that answers come to everyone who dares to  
> ask questions.
> His seems like a quite opposite admonition than the one to not eat  
> of a certain tree. As Twain observed, shoulda told'em not to eat  
> the snake.
>
> Original sin. What a weird deal.  How did snakes trees nudists  and  
> forbidden fruit lead to Iraq?
> Sorry about this rambling set of riddles.
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2007, at 11:39 AM, Mark Kohut wrote:
>
>> Does anyone else think of the religious concept of Original Sin  
>> when they
>> hear of Lew's 'unknown sin"?
>>
>> Joseph T <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>> I was struck by the similarity of the words truth and troth, both of
>> which Lew seems to be trying to escape, though he can't remember the
>> "truth" about himself that got him in trouble, and his desire to
>> reconcile with Troth is iffy. Hard boiled detectives are never  
>> married
>> ( many ex's but few nows), actually very few fictional detectives  
>> are.
>> On Feb 7, 2007, at 11:11 AM, Tim Strzechowski wrote:
>>
>> > Worst of all, Lew's adored young wife, Troth, when she found his
>> > breezy note, headed straight for the interurban and up to Chicago
>> > [...] (p. 38).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > troth (trôth, trth, trth)
>> > n.
>> > 1.
>> > a. Betrothal.
>> > b. One's pledged fidelity.
>> > 2. Good faith; fidelity.
>> > tr.v. trothed, troth·ing, troths
>> > To pledge or betroth.
>> >
>> > [Middle English trouthe, trothe, variant of treuthe, from Old
>> > English trowth, truth; see deru- in Indo-European roots.]
>> >
>> > http://www.thefreedictionary.com/troth
>> >
>> > http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/troth
>> >
>> >
>> > Umm . . . also see:
>> >
>> > http://www.thetroth.org/
>> >
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troth
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
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