ATD & Raymond Chandler

Humberto Torofuerte strongbool at gmail.com
Wed Jan 10 12:01:43 CST 2007


That makes sesne...after all Pynchon has been known give an occasional tip
o' the hat to the hardboiled genre, or at least to its cinematic descendant,
film noir....

In Vineland Pynchon envisions a sort of Disneyfication of noir in order to
sell deoderants and mineral water to suburban yuppies (a marketing tactic
that would easily work on me)...in one scene his young mallrats Prarie and
Che rendevous at Hollywood's new "Noir Centre"....featuring an upscale
mineral water boutique called Bubble Indemnity, a patio furniture outlet
called The Lounge Goodbye, a perfume dealer called The Mall Tease
Flacon...and a New York style Deli, the Lady in Lox.
(with apologies to J Carvill for the duplicate...but I feel the Pynchon
reading world must benefit from my deep insights here).


On 1/10/07, John Carvill <JCarvill at algsoftware.com > wrote:
> >
> > [very slight spoiler, from late in book, page 1040 onwards]
> >
> >
> > I know most reviews have referred to 'pulp detective fiction' but I
> > never felt this was appropriate, neither is Dashiell Hammett a very
> > close fit, though there are more Hammett  resonances towards the start
> > of the Book, and I think Hammett was a Pinkerton agent at one stage.
> >
> > But as ATD progresses, and especially at the end, it's Chandler (who,
> > like Lew, spent some time in England) I hear loud and clear in the tone,
> >
> > and also some of the specifics. Somewhere there's a mention of 'stolen
> > necklaces' and then there's Lew pursuing that case where a singer has
> > gone missing. A lot of this stuff seems to me to have come straight out
> > of Chandler, specifically 'Farewell, My Lovely'.
> >
> >
> >
>
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