ATDTDA (5.1) - The Etienne-Louis Malus
David Gentle
gentle_family at btinternet.com
Mon Mar 26 07:28:28 CDT 2007
> On 3/23/07, Monte Davis <monte.davis at bms.com> wrote:
>> David Morris wrote:
>>
>> The evidence that the CoC exist in the "real" world of AtD is in their
>> interaction with characters on the ground in Chicago and elsewhere
>> (Merle, Dahly, Lew, etc.). This needs to be qualified with that line on
>> p. 36:"...the great national celebration possessed the exact degree of
>> fictitiousness to permit the boys access and agency. The harsh
>> nonfictional world waited outside the White City's limits..."
>>
>> So yes, there's interaction, but only under (un)certain circumstances.
>>
>
> OK, I get your (& Pynchon's) point about the White City's level of
> "fictitiousness," allowing the CoC "access & agency," but it seems a
> statement less about the Chum's existence and more about their nature.
> I mean, how "real" could the talking dog be? But they do interact
> with "real" (a very relative term for everyone in the book) characters
> in numerous locations besides the White City, in the "harsh
> nonfictional world" (again, in AtD, being a work of fiction, not to be
> taken literally).
>
> David Morris
Perhaps the CoC are some imagining of Dallie's? Chicago is a sort of
imaginary landscape to her, maybe the chums are part of that landscape.
Perhaps the book originally started with her and then P. inserted a brief
imaginary interlude featuring them and then he just sort of kept imagining
what they would be like separate of her?
David Gentle
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