ATD Vortical Romance

grladams at teleport.com grladams at teleport.com
Sat Mar 31 19:02:28 CDT 2007


When I was but a nerdy teen, me and my friends were space age before it's
time. Weaned on Star Trek and noticing that the cold war wasn't seeming to
go away any time soon, we looked at all the complex around us and came to
this conclusion "They are trying to get us to live in space" was how you
could sum it up.
 
Jill
Original Message:
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From: Dave Monroe monropolitan at yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:46:35 -0700 (PDT)
To: brook7 at sover.net, pynchon-l at waste.org
Subject: Re: ATD Vortical Romance


--- Joseph T <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
 
> As I was thinking about  the Vormance expedition
> a word lodged in my  mind to connect several parts
> of ATD in particular and make more sense of
> Pynchon in general: that word is unearth....

Yeah, if this hasn't generated discussion already (and
after two postings), yr right, it sure should have, if
only fo someone to say, wow.  Wow.  Though my mind
jumped straight to what you describe as ...

> It also is a bridge to the preeminance of aerial
> warfare, and the fetishizing of clandestine boy
> heroes with hight ...

... (sic), but an appropriate slip there ...

> ... tech toys saving the world ...

Or ...

"... two Rockets, good and evil ... a good rocket to
take us to the stars, an evil Rocket for the World's
suicide, the two perpetually in struggle." (GR, Pt.
IV, p.  727)

But, given my reluctance to speak much for myslef
here, I was hoping to deploy along the way ...

Romanyshyn, Robert.  Technology as Symptom and Dream.
   New York: Routledge, 1989.

http://www.routledge-ny.com/shopping_cart/products/product_detail.asp?sku=&i
sbn=9780415007870&parent_id=&pc=/shopping_cart/search/search.asp?search%3Dro
manyshyn

http://www.online.pacifica.edu/romanyshyn/stories/storyReader$60

Virilio, Paul.  War and Cinema: The Logistics of
   Perception.  New York: Verso, 1989.

http://www.uta.edu/huma/illuminations/kell29.htm

http://www.gseis.ucla.edu/faculty/kellner/essays/viriliowartechnology.pdf

... on the astronautic and/or ballistic point of view,
but perhaps this ...

Heidegger, Martin.  "The Age of the World Picture."
   Trans. William Lovitt.  The Question Concerning
   Technology and Other Essays.  New York: Harper
   and Row, 1977.  115-54

http://www.culturaleconomics.atfreeweb.com/Anno/Heidegger%20The%20Age%20of%2
0the%20World%20Picture.htm

... though I suspect Heideggerian discourse on "earth"
might be a bit problematic in a Vaterland sense ...
 
> Anyway, maybe we should stop the endless
> unearthing and take up a little more earthing.

... but this I think is Pynchon's point as well. 
Immanence, not transcendence.  Kenosis, not gnosis.
Ethics, not morality.  Life, not the afterlife ...

"Suppose the Slothropian heresy had had the time to
consolidate and prosper.  Might there have been fewer
crimes in the name of Jesus, and more mercy in the
name of Judas Iscariot?" (GR, Pt. III, p. 556)

But, everybody, do see Joseph's post(s) ...

http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0703&msg=116639

http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0703&msg=116573

Much, much to pick up on, add to there ...


 
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