So where in the world is Nina Hartley ...?

[Daniel Harper]

On 5/21/07, mikebailey <mikebailey at speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
> that was Daniel Harper's contribution - though he was agreeing with
> my sentiment (ewww) -- note that this bit of vocabulary is a
> neologism and gives props to his thesis on youth and age...



Sorry, I didn't even really realize that the word would cause confusion. I'm
not sure I'd ever used it before myself, but I've seen it often enough that
I felt comfortable using it.

There's a layer of meaning not covered above that I think is important here.
The word is often used describing things like, say, spiders and mice and
things that people might find "icky," but it's also used in discussing
sexual content that is kinky or goes beyond some people's comfort level in
some way. It indicates that the mentioned sexual practice isn't something
you yourself are interested in, without necessarily insulting the people who
_do_ participate in or otherwise enjoy that practice.

For instance, "I'm into cosplay and femdom, but I'm squicked out by rape
fantasies and scat." (This may or may not represent my own position, it's
just an example sentence.)

Or, "Electricity squicks me."

In this context, my usage of the word in regards to Bryan I think becomes
more clear -- Bryan is "squicked" by porn in general, which I disagree with
but am readily able to accept, but also seems to extend that "squicked out"
feeling to believing that porn is harmful to relationships, et cetera. (I'm
not trying to beat up on Bryan -- I haven't met him -- but there are lots
and lots of people out there who find it easy to go from, "that thing makes
me uncomfortable," to, "that thing is overtly hurtful to such-and-such a
group, and should be censored/banned/whatever."

As much hot water as Pynchon has gotten in over his novels, it seems that a
member of a list dedicated to talking about him would be among the last
people I'd expect to have a serious problem with this issue.


very sorry about the relationship pain, Daniel, hopefully it is
> karma's way of clearing the deck for something better...


I don't believe in karma. But I appreciate the sentiment nonetheless.


On Sun, 20 May 2007, Bryan Snyder wrote:
>
> > Lol - I totally missed that... what a drop of diction!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org [mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org] On
> Behalf
> > Of Ya Sam
> > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 8:05 AM
> > To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> > Subject: Re: So where in the world is Nina Hartley ...?
> >
> > Mike's thought that P might simply
> > >be
> > >squicked out by publicly commenting on his niece's career ...
> >
> > That's what I love P-list. People, you're expanding my vocabulary.
> >
> > squick (verb)
> >
> >
> > Entry: squick
> > Function: verb
> > Definition: to bring displeasure, to "gross one out"; to perform an
> action
> > that makes other people cringe in disgust; to suggest something of a
> > displeasurable nature
> > Word History: Invented, 2002.
> > Sample sentence: <Stacey squicked Ani by showing her fresh wound.>
> >
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