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[bekah]

I agree with you,  Tore,  that Lake is uninteresting and a kind of 
"bad" character - at least as a character.   But why do you think 
Pynchon included her in the way he did?   Was it a balance to 
something?  Was it to implicate the Gods?  Was it to throw some sex 
in?

I love Frenesi,  she was original, smart and funny.  Lake's 
psychology is probably too complex for me to really grasp but I might 
be able to get a handle on the reason for her existence and 
activities from a thematic pov.   (don't know)

Bekah

At 5:42 PM +0200 5/26/07, Tore Rye Andersen wrote:
>Jasper:
>
>>I am curious why there were only a couple of comments on the last 
>>two questions about character motivations and psychology (Why Lake 
>>+ Deuce, and why Lake thinks she's "bad").  I figured those would 
>>do a lot better than the more abstract questions about mirroring 
>>and dreams and "Them".
>
>Thanks for some ass-kicking hosting, Jasper. My fundament is all sore....
>
>My own lack of reply to those last two questions has to do with the 
>fact that I find Lake (and the Lake-related incidents) in AtD by far 
>the LEAST interesting aspect of the novel. Mark's post about 
>Pynchon's characterization (or lack of same) is spot on, at least 
>with regard to Lake, who seems but a shallow variation of that 
>great, full-bodied character from Vineland, Frenesi. I generally 
>don't think Pynchon does bad characters - Frenesi, Slothrop, Mason 
>and Dixon are IMHO as complex and interesting as any introspective 
>character out of Roth or Bellow - but Lake indeed IS "bad" - not 
>only a bad girl, but a bad character. Pynchon seems strangely 
>uninterested in giving her a life of her own (as opposed to a lot of 
>the other characters in AtD, such as Cyprian, Dally, or Stray, for 
>instance.) I've been through AtD twice now, and both times I grew a 
>bit impatient during the Lake sections, to be honest.
>
>In short: my lack of reply in this particular instance had 
>absolutely nothing to do with the quality of your questions, and 
>everything to do with my lack of interest in Pynchon's shallow Lake 
>(and boy, these are HARSH words from me - Like Robin pointed out a 
>couple-three weeks ago, I tend to think Pynchon is made of 
>Unobtainium, and I love AtD with a passion...)
>
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