ATDDTA(10):

Ande andekgrahn at olympus.net
Tue May 29 23:37:16 CDT 2007


Thank You My thoughts exactly---  I had been trying to remember where I 
had seen marmots recently-----Nihilists  "Vee belief in nossing, 
Lebowski! NOSSING"


Henry wrote:

>>From "The Big Leboski" script, whose main character, also named Lebowski, is called by himself and his friends as "The Dude."  A-and there is even some dialog concerning whether it is a marmot or a weasel (or a stoat?  [Sloat?])
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>The room is dark now except for spill from the living room; 
>               the men are backlit shapes.
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>               One of them holds a string at the other end of which a small 
>               animal skitters excitedly about the floor.
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>               The Dude looks curiously at the small, nattering animal.
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>                                     DUDE
>                         Nice marmot.
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>               The man with the string scoops up the marmot and tosses it, 
>               screaming, into the bathtub.
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>               The Dude screams.
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>               The marmot splashes frantically, biting at the Dude in a 
>               frenzy of fearful aggression.
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>                                     FIRST MAN
>                         Vee vant zat money, Lebowski.
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>               The Dude, screaming, grabs the lip of the tub and starts to 
>               hoist himself up but the first man lays a palm on top of his 
>               head and squishes him back into the water.
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>                                     SECOND MAN
>                         You think veer kidding und making 
>                         mit de funny stuff?
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>                                     THIRD MAN
>                         Vee could do things you only dreamed 
>                         of, Lebowski.
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>                                     SECOND MAN
>                         Ja, vee could really do it, Lebowski.  
>                         Vee belief in nossing.
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>               He scoops the marmot out of the water.  It shakes itself 
>               off, spraying the Dude.
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>                                     DUDE
>                         Jesus!
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>                                     DIETER
>                         Vee belief in nossing, Lebowski!  
>                         NOSSING!!
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>               The marmot, back on the floor, is skittering around, shaking 
>               itself and convulsing in little sneezes.
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>                                     DUDE
>                         Jesus Christ!
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>                                     FIRST MAN
>                         Tomorrow vee come back und cut off 
>                         your chonson.
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>Henry M
>http://www.urdomain.us/kcuf.htm 
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>Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 12:19 PM
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>Subject: Re: ATDDTA(10):
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>The idea of an eagle dropping a marmot on the roof, shaking things up, seems to make the most sense.  It recalls Robert Graves', "I, Claudius."  In his account, when the future Emperor Claudius was a child, and presumed to be virtually retarded, an eagle dropped a half-eaten wolf-pup into his arms.  It was prophesied that the damged wolf-pup was Rome and that Claudius would grow up to protect it.
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>So the marmot dropped by an eagle could be a prophesy of sorts for Sloat.  He's frightened enough that he spills his soup.  Soon after, afraid, he leaves, eventually to be killed.
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>As to your Beavis and Butthead parallels, that seems head on.  Good catch!
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>Laura
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>>(3) Something hits the roof hard enough to splash the soup right out  
>>of Sloat's bowl. He uses this as evidence that his belief in the bad  
>>luck of bathing is not crazy.
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>>What hit the roof so hard, and from whence cometh it?
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>>(4) Lake's response is: "Goodness, it's a marmot."
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>>What is the "it" to which Lake refers?
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>>(a) Was it a marmot that hit the roof? If so, we have some explaining  
>>to do, because marmots are burrowing animals not known to climb trees  
>>or find themselves airborne. Oddly enough, in the 5th century B.C.,  
>>they were miners of sorts, as their burrowing was known to dig up  
>>gold in the Himalayas. Herodotus thought they were 'gold-digging  
>>ants.'* They are prey for the eagle, however, and in some folk tales,  
>>captured marmots are known to be dropped from some altitude into the  
>>eagle's nest.** So, one possibility is that the bang on the roof was  
>>a dropped marmot. But, marmots aren't really big enough to shake soup  
>>are they? If so, perhaps it would fit with the 'As above, so below'  
>>motif.
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