Denver landmarks in AtD

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This post is an addendum to my post below, the one with a link to the ny times. You need to check that post to see what this one is about.

I may have made a mistake about Colfax Ave. being in AtD. It now seems to me that TRP never mentions Colfax Ave. by name. I lived in Denver for awhile (Go Broncos.) and know Colfax a little too well. The most significant reference he does not name is to the Brown Palace Hotel. It already existed in the time various AtD characters climb down the mountains to civilization. It was a temporary home for the (rich) passing through town, or sticking around just long enough to spend their silver. I once stayed at the BPH. (It is no longer only for the rich--trust me on this.) Historic and cheap for the rooms not yet renovated (very historic and uncomfortable). 

Anyone have any idea whether TRP mentions by name the Hotel, or Colfax Ave?

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From: Mark Kohut 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 7:57 AM
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Page!,

Yes, post this to all, I say........TRP singles out On the Road with praise as late as Slow Learner intro, 1984......
I think the yo-yoing at the beginning of V. is inspired by On The Road....

Mark


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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:25:57 AM
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Mark, If I can still remember things at all, Colfax Ave. shows up more than once in AtD. Parts of it haven't changed much, but now the city governments (it is the longest road in Denver and environs, many miles long) want to make another attempt to clean it up. I believe Colfax was already trashed by AtD days.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/26/us/26colfax.html?th&emc=th

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark Kohut 
  To: Page 
  Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:57 AM
  Subject: Re: Off-Line: for noticing?....more LW?


  Page,

  Thanks...I do know the Moore story about, what, a chair?...what, Whacks it?....can't really remember.........and know Moore's ideas imprecisely.......in the context of extreme doubt and LW 

  I think TRP just so accepts--yet hates--the world we live in that his vision of 'the good life", a better world that could have been, is to him akin to Moore's  or Wittgenstein's views........................

  Mark


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  To: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
  Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 5:29:52 PM
  Subject: Re: Off-Line: for noticing?....more LW?


  Mark,

  I failed to mention that you are correct about LW's belief that D.'s unsupportable 'doubt' was a (philosophical) language game. G. E. Moore is noted for his common sense views on various forms of absurd philosophical doubt--you probably know this from On Certainty--LW thought Moore was the best of the philosophers trying to ditch doubt, if you will--but LW also thought that Moore was playing a foolish philosophical language game by taking seriously extreme doubt. The titles of the chief Moore articles are "A Defence of Common Sense" and "Proof of an External World." The articles are interesting, but you can tell from the titles that LW would not approve of Moore's belief that common sense requires a defence, or that we need a proof of an external world.

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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Mark Kohut 
    To: Page 
    Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 7:41 PM
    Subject: Off-Line: for noticing?....more LW?


    Page,

    I have just learned something about Hilbert the mathematicain that I think TRP put into
    an almost offhand remark in AtD..which I will post tomorrow or later..........

    But it involves something else I am 'noticing' in AtD and a little in other Pynchon's that
    I may be fully projecting. I worry like Oedipa about it, trivial as it is.

    Certainty. LW on..."refuting" Descartes' radical doubt in On Certainty........

    and we know TRP hates Descartes...and I get occasional emphatic echoes/remarks
    about a felt, lived-in certainty, which can not ever be 'doubted' as Descartes contrived
    the game.......(which is how I have internalized LWs remarks therein.)

    Tell me I'm projecting or watch for objectively....
    or correct my memory? Argument?

    Mark


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