On Nov 26, 2007 7:42 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote: > P.S. Whle looking up literary references involving Gretchen, > I learned that Gunther in German is a word containing > the German words for 'fight" + 'Army" etymologically.... Shhh .. that's two notes away, and I gotta let Tim catch up, so ...