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robinlandseadel at comcast.net robinlandseadel at comcast.net
Wed Oct 3 15:59:38 CDT 2007


           Mark Kohut:
           Foax:
 
            Pynchon is full of MEANING....a moral/critical 
            perspective on......History....America......the 
            World............Almost Everything.

And yet, first & foremost he's a satirist. He's slaving away at the same 
satirical wells as does Cervantes and Swift, his guiding muse is comic, the 
man's a Beach Boys fan, fer chrisake. I guess one 'meaning' to consider is
that Pynchon has lightened up, seeing as we are all caught up in mechanisms 
over which we have no control. Certainly, the upheaval abort the Stupendica 
can be considered, at least in part, a demonstration of the de-railing power 
of shifting circumstances while 'these folk are mostly just trying to persue 
their lives.' And yet, it is squarely centered in the novel. At dead center is 
a conflux of Western Cultural/Western Colonial karmic backwash, just 
beggin' for the hammer  to fall. Stefan Mattessich's 'Lines of Flight,
discursive time and contercultural Desire in the work of Thomas Pynchon',
has bestowed upon me the notion of subjective displacement. While
I can't seem to decipher much of Mattessich's tome, there are many 
examples in Against the Day of radical subjective displacement. I have to
note that Pynchon's Anarchists of 1901 remind me plenty of the anarchists 
of 2001.
 
            Do we need more riffing by any (and all) on the Meaning of 
            (particularly now), the Stupendica, Maximilian, shape-shifting, 
            time-sliding stuff herein????

Probably, it'll most likely turn out to a 4-D diorama of upper level maths.
 
            Yeahp, we are all "just speculating since we aren't OBA......But
 
            shouldn't More Speculate?

Yes, and I do get a sense than there's a certain amount of wear and 
fatigue, but it does seem there's a content/comment ratio that lines up.
Let's not kid ourselves, you have to be some kind of nut case to read 
something this thick in this much detail. And there's a 'Family Guy' 
marathon comin' up.

            I, for one, think this section carries some/one of the Major 
            Overarching Meanings of AtD......
            A full-scale critique, post-Marxian, pre-Marxian, non-Marxian.....
            preteritely Marxian,so to speak, of The Modern Bourgeois World.....

What if Pynchon is a Gaucho Marxist? On a certain level, he's got some sort 
of middle class life, a roof over his head, on the other there's a lot of talk 
of anarchism, enthusiastic talk, I'm not buying some of the "fair & balanced" 
interpretations I've read. I think Against the Day is on some level a kind of 
wacked-out demonstration of Anarchy in action [or Anarchyinaction.] Though
Our Beloved Author's embrace of 'Anarchy' might be mainly for the comic
potential of anarchy.

            PS. this is why Pugnax is a "dog of war", yes?!?

Beats me, I'm not as smart as Pugnax.



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