Nobel odds or Who will be awarded the Nobel Literature Prize

[John BAILEY]

Yeah, Murakami is up there with Pynchon for me in terms of enjoyable
reads, but no way I'd tip him for a Nobel. It just doesn't make sense to
me.

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From: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org [mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Kohut
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2007 5:08 AM
To: David Morris
Cc: pynchon -l
Subject: Re: Nobel odds or Who will be awarded the Nobel Literature
Prize


David,
 
I love Murakami, have written a long review/essay (still
unpublished..but close) but do know and agree that the line on him is:
He is only with Wind-Up Bird Chronicle, latest book[After Dark] and some
recent stories has he started to really develop a 'tragic
vision".....The Harold Bloom/M. Wood of Germany took him apart [for
that] on a TV discussion (with another "critic'. not Murakami)  Other
guy walked off he was so angry..........more legnedary than the
Vidal-Mailer TV tiff..........
 
Haruki has put the experience of his reception into a short story in his
last collection.....
 
I think there is a place for such.......as HM........but "too much Hello
Kitty is a great line...and too true of too many works.......he is great
on women. on men trying to understand them. listening to them......some
"getting them"...and he has translated many English writers into
Japanese....
 
But the Swedish Academy loves tragic and (generally) left-critical.
 
I think the massive good and less good of ATD...particularly the massive
'mixed' scope, continued critique of the Western world (and more. and
more)...a year to read it.......means
if OBA does not win this year then..........odds are against.....unless
he has another major one before...............
 
Adonis is an Arab...known all over the Middle East......bigger than
Frost and Gibran together ever were.....Google him.......been written as
a nobel fave for years.........couple-three in NY Times.......(they must
be 'backing' him as they did The Sopranos....


David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

	I don't exactly dislike Murakami, I just think he's not all
that.
	I've read Kafka on the Shore (pretty good) and Wind-Up Bird
Chronicle
	(not as much), and I think he's constantly hinting at deeper
levels of
	meaning and complexity, but never delivers, leaving so many
threads
	just hanging. Maybe it's because I'm not Japanese. I think his
	magical realism is just a little too much Hello Kitty.
	
	I've only read Rushdie's satanic Verses, which I really liked,
but if
	one is to be faulted for later works "falling off," I think OBA
	suffers from that fault too. Pynchon should have gotten the
Nobel
	back in the eighties, but not now.
	
	Roth's very good, but who is this Adonis guy? Does he really go
with
	this single iconic nome de plume? Like Madonna?
	
	David Morris
	
	On 10/3/07, Mark Kohut wrote:
	> I'd spread my bucks on Pynchon, Adonis, and Roth.
	>
	>
	> Richard Ryan wrote:
	> I'd spread my bucks on Rushdie, Murakami, and Roth.
	>
	> The Joyce Carol Oates line must be a joke the
	> Ladbrokes guys threw in. To have JCO at 10-1 and not
	> have Norman Mailer, John Ashbery or W.S Merwin on the
	> list at all defies all sense and reason.
	>
	


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