Fwd: ATDTDA (17): "co-conscious" (478.14)
Mark Kohut
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Wed Sep 19 17:51:18 CDT 2007
To Tim, most and All,
I mishandled this great post of Tim's from his hosting...but I refound, reread and wanted to post a thought or two...
Co-consciousness...what a concept to find in OBA, yes?......talk about the great theme of
the lost 'wider ranges" of life, History, etc.....this is one of the best for human, psychological range, no?......
A-And, did anyone else think bi-location, Iceland Spar motif when they encountered this concept?
Co-Consciousness can go real deep even if just as a metaphor in TRP's oeuvre, imho. His conception of History, streams of, the awful yet the overlooked simple lives, for example...
MK
Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
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Date: Sep 19, 2007 2:37 PM
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From: dedalus204 at comcast.net (Tim Strzechowski)
To: pynchon-l at waste.org
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 03:17:36 +0000
Subject: ATDTDA (17): "co-conscious" (478.14)
"While creeping into him came the rectal message that somebody might be more than willing to do him up, too, along with the quickening heartbeat of hatred, a co-conscious witness of all their past together violated and death's bobwire run straight through" (p. 478).
Co-conscious is a term used by multiples (people with Multiple Personality Disorder, Dissociative Identity Disorder, or empowered multiples) to describe the state of being when two or more people in the system are conscious of the events going on outside the body, or are aware of each other's thoughts. When a whole system is described as co-conscious, it usually means that everyone, or nearly everyone, is always aware of what is going on outside. This means that no one loses time. It also usually means that the people in the system can converse freely, and have access to each other's thoughts.
Being co-conscious with someone can be like sharing a telepathic link, and sometimes it is strong while sometimes weak. Two people who are co-conscious might only be able to share thoughts with effort, or they might have access to each other's memories only very foggily. Conversely, they might share all thoughts, feelings, and memories.
Most systems have a combination of co-consciousness and lost time, with a few multiple systems being at one extreme or another. Sybil, the famous multiple from the 60s, had almost no co-consciousness, and never remembered events from when her alters were out. It is more common to have a completely co-conscious system than one with no co-consciousness.
In therapy, being co-conscious is usually a goal. Some systems work on becoming co-conscious so they can integrate, and some systems see co-consciousness as a final goal, not wishing to integrate into one person.
http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1128848
THERE ARE many psychologists who find no difficulty in accepting the descriptions of cases of the type discussed in the last chapter, and who nevertheless preserve an obstinate scepticism in face of the evidence for what Dr. Morton Prince has well called "coconsciousness." In this they reveal, I think, a naive and borné state of mind. For if, as most of these sceptics assume, human consciousness is nothing more than a synthesis of discrete conscious elements (call them sensations or ideas, or what you will), there is no obvious reason why these elements should not cohere in two or several streams flowing side by side in time, rather than in a single stream. And if we take a strictly materialistic or epiphenomenalist or parallelist view of the mind-body relation, there is equally no reason why the functions of the nervous system, and especially of the cerebral cortex, should not take the form of two or more integrated groups of functions simultaneously proceeding, each with
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http://www.survivalafterdeath.org/articles/mcdougall/coexisting.htm
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