Atdtda29: Returning is being, but, 814-819--tangent

[grladams at teleport.com]

Yeah, there's something melancholy about it. And the wistful tone runs
along this phrase, as in other phrases that remind me of this. I wish I had
put page markers throughout AtD now to note systematically track "them" all
...(Kit hears)voices that he should have been recognized. There's a
structure of rift in this book, with phrasing invoking shadows to things
not there, impressions formed from steps not yet taken, this kind of
phrasing is all over this book. In my section there's mentions of eye
sockets looking out, reacting to things not explicitly in front of them, as
what happens for a sculpture. And at the absence I see a space that wants
(wants to -- which can be defined as ambivalent propositional phrases) to
be filled, and I see a delay, a long hesitation before something happens.
There are voices from the future that come out in dread of it, I think too,
(will I spoil it if I go further) I suggest that the Zeitgeist of the times
was a feeling of delay in political and commercial throughput, and that
there were intense forces in Turkey and the 5 and 6 major countries, and
reading up on the Chester Project has provided me with exciting depth. 
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Original Message:
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From: Mark Kohut markekohut at yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 17:30:37 -0700 (PDT)
To: isread at btinternet.com, pynchon-l at waste.org
Subject: Re: Atdtda29: Returning is being, but, 814-819


Paul wrote: Returning is being, ...............
   
  p.818...."The sea here...the currents and wind, were a composite being
with intentions of its own.  It had a name which was never spoken...."
   
  We have heard before, haven't we, of beings which had 'names never
spoken'.......like the name of ****** in the Bible.....
   
  I recently read this about a philosopher I no longer ever read----for
reasons that, unspoken,
  will be known to all [Okay, It's Heidegger]....Seems Heidegger is
supposed to have said,
  when asked about his Being [in "Being" and Time] in contrast to Sartre's
Being [in "Being & Nothingness", said to be influenced by B & T],something
like 'my being [small cap] is all
  that existed before we called it BEING'....
   
  The sea here, that face in every stone that ends GR, all the wind and
birds and dogs...All are TRPs ground of being, god before we spoke his
name, a natural holiness.....................lost, I suggest, lost, lost
and felt as lost if we can be mindful enough.
   
   
   
  
Paul Nightingale <isread at btinternet.com> wrote:
  [814.39-815.3] The military band did not make things easier. Having
detected
a larger than usual turnout of British travellers, and waiting with some
infernal clairvoyance until Cyprian thought he had a grip on himself, just
as he turned to bid Yashmeen a breezy arrivederci, they began to play an
arrangement for brass of "Nimrod"--what else?--from Elgar's Enigma
Variations.


Deleuze on difference/repetition:


Repetition is truly that which disguises itself in constituting itself, that
which constitutes itself only by disguising itself. It is not underneath the
masks, but is formed from one mask to another, as though from one
distinctive point to another, from one privileged instant to another, with
and within the variations. The masks do not hide anything except other
masks. There is no first term which is repeated.


From: Gilles Deleuze, Difference and Repetition, Athlone Press, 1994, 17.


Cyprian's final appearance in this chapter, soon to be replaced by both
Cyprienne ("before long they were close friends", 815) and Vlado ("she must
be clear with herself, in no way was he a substitute for Cyprian", 817).


And then ...


Eternal return cannot mean the return of the Identical because it
presupposes a world (that of the will to power) in which all previous
identities have been abolished and dissolved. Returning is being, but only
the being of becoming. The eternal return does not bring back 'the same',
but returning constitutes the only Same of that which becomes. Returning is
the becoming-identical of becoming itself.


From: Difference and Repetition, 41.


Hence the difference of opinion on "the big mystery" (815), Russian or
Scottish folk songs.


Cf. Vlado's eternal optimism ...


[819.10-12] "You know the play by Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice? Very
popular with us, of course from the Uskok point of view, we keep hoping till
the end for Antonio to come to grief."


Note that "we keep hoping".


And then polysemy, from ...


[807.13] Yashmeen arrived one morning at the shop in the Mariahilfe Strasse
...


to ...


[808.20] "Theign making trouble at your shop as well ..."


to ...


[811.21] And as for any assistance from Theign's shop ...



       
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