AtD, as the wheel turns, turns, turns
Mark Kohut
markekohut at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 22 08:14:48 CDT 2008
Robin:
yes, I overstated........as I've thrown out there, lots
of the essential math in AtD is satrized, eviscerated, as a major
cause of the probelm of modernity, I think. Mad Dog Principles of Mathematics
Russell.....for simple example.
I might argue that light needs no math to be seen and felt in AtD. When
it has math, it is 'electric light' and other bad shit...
But, also, such as with yashmeen here, I think it is
Macguffin-like in this way:
A MacGuffin (sometimes McGuffin) is a plot device that motivates the characters or advances the story, but the details of which are of little or no importance otherwise.
The element that distinguishes a MacGuffin from other types of plot devices is that it is not important what the object specifically is. Anything that serves as a motivation will do. The MacGuffin might even be ambiguous. Its importance is accepted by the story's characters, but it does not actually have any effect on the story. It can be generic or left open to interpretation.
But I'm wrong a lot.
Mark
robinlandseadel at comcast.net wrote:
Mark Kohut :
Michael,
I'm still mostly believeing that math is (mostly) a
MacGuffin, at least, in AtD---as you have used that
concept to apply to other aspects of Pycnhon's bag
of tricks. . . .
Quarterninions were reclaimed by computer animators, are an
essential part of the "City of the future." In other words, part
and parcel to the emerging math language of quantum mechanics,
the physics of light. Not a McGuffin but the heart of the story.
From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
To: Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
CC: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Subject: Re: AtD, as the wheel turns, turns, turns
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:28:05 +0000
Michael,
I'm still mostly believeing that math is (mostly) a MacGuffin, at least, in AtD---as
you have used that concept to apply to other aspects of Pycnhon's bag of tricks.
But, gambling, probability are more pervasive themes than I noticed at first, fer sure...
Still puzzling them out....
Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
oh, and yes, Webb referring to his family as the "whole damn
poker hand" segueing into Kit's dream where the paterfamilias
is actually working on such a hand, transmuted by dream-logic
into a mathematical array
indeed, the study of probability has been greatly encouraged
by the practice of gambling over the years
and in the Heechee Books (I think) weren't the Pearson's
Puppeteers engaging in a long breeding experiment with
the human race, selecting for "luck" which they had found
to be a heritable trait?
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