P-Lit>GR!

[Mark Kohut]

Late in V., we learn of that V.s age. I believe she is 37 and it is 1917.
   
  Look up the year 1880 on wikipedia and see if it don't--as Reef might say---relate to AtD
  massively.   
   
  A-and, that's just one piece.

Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at yahoo.ca> wrote:
          It all begins with V.  All the books allude back to V. somewhere in their chapters.  I think the V motif / metaphor is fundamental to TRP's game.  I'm just starting to follow the perspectives, but it seems to fit, somehow.  As if V were lead and mercury, GR the forge (oven), etc....  (I'm still re-reading.)  An alchemical thing.  I keep coming back to the conclusion of AtD as a purification of sorts, an arrival at some sublime state where it's okay just to be sort of common, somehow.  That the true gold, the philosopher's stone is no big deal.  Just open hands entering the marketplace (as per the Zen ox-herding pictures) where people chop wood, carry water.  But I must emphasize that I do not think we are observing from within this perspective.  Rather I think we are observing what this perspective looks like objectively.  And allow me the pun, GR soars when I view it in these terms.

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From: Bekah <Bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
To: Ian (Hank Kimble) Scuffling <scuffling at gmail.com>
Cc: P-list Liste <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:47:41 PM
Subject: Re: P-Lit>GR!

I personally find GR well written and interesting in some places but, still,  a tad offensive.   That said,  I  absolutely loooooorrve The Crying of Lot 49,  Vineland,  M&D and Against the Day.   I've not read V.  I've read Slow Learner and find it somewhat  dated - important probably in understanding the early development of TRP.   M&D is my favorite with TCoL49 a very close second. -  AtD is the culmination of an oeuvre.  (just my o)  

  Bekah-the-Brave
  

  

  

      On Apr 22, 2008, at 10:42 AM, Ian (Hank Kimble) Scuffling wrote:

    OMG!  It never occurred to me before that there might  be people who
  appreciated other works by Pynchon, but didn't "enjoy Gravity's
  Rainbow.
  

  Anyone else care to admit it?
  

  AsB4,
  

  Henry
  -- 
  

  On 4/22/08, grladams
   <SNIP>
  

  I never really enjoyed Gravity's Rainbow, but I'm halfway thinking of
  jointing--oops I mean joining this seminar just to see some people in
  realtime about Pynchon. <snip>


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