One last time (and then I give up....)

Tim Ware tim at hyperarts.com
Tue Dec 9 14:18:04 CST 2008


Hey folks,

I definitely don't want to be the list-mom here, and perhaps the  
preponderance of cruft (junk formatting code) on this list doesn't  
bother anyone else, but today's post had this lovely bit which I found  
totally unreadable, and I'm sure Mark has something to say here.

Remember, this isn't about all of us not having email programs that  
can handle HTML email; it's because waste.org processes users' posts  
and all the formatting code in them is displayed as code.

The following is Mark Kohut's email. Another from John Bailey was also  
junk-laden. I have to say I almost split a gut laughing when I saw  
this one:

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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 13:32:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
Subject: that 'creeping fig' again and what Vineland has come to.

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vine=
which attaches itself securely to wood or metal masonry, making a  
delicate=
tracery of small heart shaped leaves. This cultivar offers creamy  
white ma=
rgins on the deep green foliage. In time the stems can cover a lot of  
terri=
tory. Cut it to the ground occasionally to keep in bounds. Can grow in  
sun =
or shade, but prefers cooler environments with regular  
water.=0A___________=
____________________________________________=0AIn Pynchon's poetic  
symbolog=
y, plants, like trees, like wind and much else that is 'natural', is a  
posi=
tive association. =0A=A0=0AThe Vineland the Vikings=A0found in  
northern Nor=
th America could grow grapes for wine--in the 900s. It got colder--a  
negati=
ve association in Pynchon---since. =0A=A0=0ANow, this=A0fecund VINE,  
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the small heart-shaped leaves"--reminds me of the "Wand'ring Heart"  
wood gr=
ain in the card table early in "Mason & Dixon"---cannot grow figs,  
only whi=
te margins and sometimes a small flower. =0A=A0=0AAnd there is  
Heartsease i=
n Against the Day.=0A=A0=0A(As mentioned, 'creeping fig' is not  
'invasive' =
unless, like=0AZoyd, the Dude, one neglects it.)=0A=A0=0AZoyd neglects  
much=
. He is entropic, so to speak metaphorically. =0A=A0=0A(He wakes from  
a dre=
am before any=A0"communication"--=A0and, either=0Ahe, or the TV  
studios, mi=
scommunicate concerning his appearance. I'd bet on him.)  
=0A=A0=0ACommunica=
tion not happening----deep TRP theme, of course.=0A=A0=0AA massive  
falling-=
off. Degradation: One of Henry Adams' lesser-known works is The  
Degradation=
of the Democratic Ideal. Could=0Areally apply to Vineland, no, as we  
are a=
ll going to=A0encounter again?=0A_________________=0A=A0=0AThe  
dystopian sa=
tire is fiercely, albeit comically,=A0(=A0almost) =A0total, I suggest.  
(By =
'fierce' here I mean intense/pervasive, even when quietly  
so.)=0A=A0=0ATree=
s-- as per the hardcover cover. Now yuppified Logjam Bars.  
=0A=A0=0AThe 'fo=
od'. More degradation.=0AZoyd's scam. =0AZoyd's relationship with his  
daugh=
ter. =0A=A0=0AThis land is ..............NOT the Vikings Vineland, not  
even=
close to Mason & Dixon's land........=0A=0A=0A
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=3D4>Creeping fig is an evergreen vine which attaches itself securely  
to wo=
od or metal masonry, making a delicate tracery of small heart shaped  
leaves=
. This cultivar offers creamy white margins on the deep green foliage.  
In t=
ime the stems can cover a lot of territory. Cut it to the ground  
occasional=
ly to keep in bounds. Can grow in sun or shade, but prefers cooler  
environm=
ents with regular  
water.<BR>_______________________________________________=
________</FONT></P>=0A<P><FONT  
face=3DArial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-=
Regular size=3D4>In Pynchon's poetic symbology, plants, like trees,  
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e early </FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D4>in "Mason  
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comically,&nbsp=
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intense/pe=
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per t=
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face=
=3DArial size=3D4></FONT> </P>=0A<P><FONT face=3DArial  
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