VL-IV p29

[Dave Monroe]

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Michael Bailey
<michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:

> "Who was saved?"
> good one - appeal to Zoyd's conscience.  Does his refusal to
> co-operate with law enforcement actually help the people he doesn't
> turn in?

"Who was saved?"

And with him they crucify two robbers; one on his right hand, and one
on his left. And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was
reckoned with transgressors. (Mark 15:27-8)

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/mark-asv.html

Then are there crucified with him two robbers, one on the right hand
and one on the left. (Matthew 27:39)

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/matthew-asv.html

And there were also two others, malefactors, led with him to be put to
death.  And when they came unto the place which is called The skull,
there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand
and the other on the left.  And Jesus said, Father, forgive them; for
they know not what they do. And parting his garments among them, they
cast lots.  And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also
scoffed at him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if this
is the Christ of God, his chosen.  And the soldiers also mocked him,
coming to him, offering him vinegar, and saying, If thou art the King
of the Jews, save thyself. And there was also a superscription over
him, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.  And one of the malefactors that
were hanged railed on him, saying, Art not thou the Christ? save
thyself and us. But the other answered, and rebuking him said, Dost
thou not even fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation? And
we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this
man hath
done nothing amiss. And he said, Jesus, remember me when thou comest
in thy kingdom. And he said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To-day
shalt thou be with me in Paradise.  (Luke 23:32-43)

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/luke-asv.html

... they crucified him, and with him two others, on either side one,
and Jesus in the midst.  (John 19:18)

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/john-asv.html

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/

VLADIMIR: Ah yes, the two thieves. Do you remember the story?
ESTRAGON: No.
VLADIMIR: Shall I tell it to you?
ESTRAGON: No.
VLADIMIR: It'll pass the time. (Pause.) Two thieves, crucified at the
same time as our Saviour. One–
ESTRAGON: Our what?
VLADIMIR: Our Saviour. Two thieves. One is supposed to have been saved
and the other . . . (he searches for the contrary of saved) . . .
damned.
ESTRAGON: Saved from what?
VLADIMIR: Hell.
ESTRAGON: I'm going.
He does not move.
VLADIMIR: And yet . . . (pause) . . . how is it —this is not boring
you I hope— how is it that of the four Evangelists only one speaks of
a thief being saved. The four of them were there —or thereabouts— and
only one speaks of a thief being saved. (Pause.) Come on, Didi, return
the ball, can't you, once in a while?
ESTRAGON: (with exaggerated enthusiasm). I find this really most
extraordinarily interesting.
VLADIMIR: One out of four. Of the other three two don't mention any
thieves at all and the third says that both of them abused him.
ESTRAGON: Who?
VLADIMIR: What?
ESTRAGON: What's all this about? Abused who?
VLADIMIR: The Saviour.
ESTRAGON: Why?
VLADIMIR: Because he wouldn't save them.
ESTRAGON: From hell?
VLADIMIR: Imbecile! From death.
ESTRAGON: I thought you said hell.
VLADIMIR: From death, from death.
ESTRAGON: Well what of it?
VLADIMIR: Then the two of them must have been damned.
ESTRAGON: And why not?
VLADIMIR: But one of the four says that one of the two was saved.
ESTRAGON: Well? They don't agree and that's all there is to it.
VLADIMIR: But all four were there. And only one speaks of a thief
being saved. Why believe him rather than the others?
ESTRAGON: Who believes him?
VLADIMIR: Everybody. It's the only version they know.
ESTRAGON: People are bloody ignorant apes.

http://samuel-beckett.net/Waiting_for_Godot_Part1.html
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~boozer/existentialism/waiting_for_godot_1.html

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> "You, Hector."
> and that, for some reason, makes Hector at least fake sadness.  All
> this falling brings Milton's Satan to mind, of course, but Hector's no
> immortal spirit.  Or is he?

"Beg pardon?"

And one of the malefactors that were hanged railed on him, saying, Art
not thou the Christ? save thyself and us. But the other answered, and
rebuking him said, Dost thou not even fear God, seeing thou art in the
same condemnation? And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward
of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss. And he said,
Jesus, remember me when thou comest in thy kingdom. And he said unto
him, Verily I say unto thee, To-day shalt thou be with me
in Paradise.

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/luke-asv.html


"One OD'd on the line"

Cf. ...

This little piggy went to market
This little piggy stayed home
This little piggy had roast beef
This little piggy had none
This little piggy cried "Wee! Wee! Wee!"" all the way home ...

http://www.bartleby.com/59/6/thislittlepi.html


"household"

Main Entry: econ·o·my
Pronunciation: i-'kä-n&-mE, &-, E-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -mies
Etymology: Middle French yconomie, from Medieval Latin oeconomia, from
Greek oikonomia, from oikonomos household manager, from oikos house +
nemein to manage -- more at VICINITY, NIMBLE
Date: 15th century
1 archaic : the management of household or private affairs and
especially expenses
2 a : thrifty and efficient use of material resources : frugality in
expenditures; also : an instance or a
means of economizing : SAVING b : efficient and concise use of
nonmaterial resources (as effort,
language, or motion)
3 : the arrangement or mode of operation of something: ORGANIZATION
4 : the structure of economic life in a country, area, or period;
specifically : an economic system

http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

"the SWAT team"

Main Entry: SWAT
Function: abbreviation
Special Weapons and Tactics

http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary
http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/ShowMainServlet/showid-1478/
http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/s.w.a.t./
http://www.fortunecity.com/campus/college/811/police/swat.mid


"thotz"

Cf. Thoth?  That's MR. Thoth to you ...

http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0108&msg=58697


"compinche"

Compinche: Buddy, accomplice

http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Bay/7110/dictionary-c.htm

compinche s.m. 1 (fam.) mate. 2 accomplice (en un delito).

delito s.m. crime, offence: delito polmtico = political crime.

pinchar v.t. 1 to prick. 2 to puncture, to pierce (perforar). 3 to
annoy, to tease (incordiar). 4 TEC.
(fam.) to bug. 5 (fam.) to give someone) a jab. 6 no ni cortar, (fam.)
to cut no ice, to carry no weight.

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"Zen meditation"

"The L.E.D. blinks, shivers, nods in a resign'd way.  'You are hardly
the first to ask.  Travelers return'd from the Japanese Islands tell
of certain  religious Puzzles known as Koan ....'" (M&D, Ch. 3, p. 22)

http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0109&msg=60225


"the fallen"

Preterite
Calvinist/Puritan doctrine of the Elect (the chosen) and the Preterite
(the passed-over, the damned); "second sheep" 3; "a new preterition
abroad in England" 15; Dodoes, 108-11; "But if [the Dutch settlors]
were chosen to come to Mauritius, why had they also been chosen to
fail, and leave? Is that a choosing, or is it a passing over? Are they
Elect, or are they Preterite, and doomed as Dodoes?" 110; "men you
have seen on foot and smileless in the cities but forgot" 136; at
Rathenau seance, 163; coal-tars as preterite dung, 166; "his poor
sheep" 233; "the multitudes who are passed over by God and History"
299; "In preterite line they have pointed her here" 316; "Elite and
Preterite, we move through a cosmic design of darkness and light" 495;
"they dissolve now into the swarm. . .of this dancing Preterition"
548; "The successful loner was only the other part of it: the last
piece to the jigsaw puzzle, whose shape had already been created by
the Preterite" 554; Judas, 555; On Preterition, 555; "in their slick
persistence and our preterition" 590; "rubbers yellow with preterite
seed, Kleenex wadded to brain shapes hiding preterite snot, preterite
tears" 626; 667; 668; "the glozing neuters of the world" 677; "the
Humility, among the gray and preterite souls" 742; See also Hand of
Providence/God; Puritans

http://www.hyperarts.com/pynchon/gravity/alpha/p-q.html


"quality of descent"

Main Entry: trag·e·dy
Pronunciation: 'tra-j&-dE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -dies
Etymology: Middle English tragedie, from Middle French, from Latin
tragoedia, from Greek tragOidia, from tragos goat (akin to Greek
trOgein to gnaw) + aeidein to sing -- more at TROGLODYTE, ODE
Date: 14th century
1 a : a medieval narrative poem or tale typically describing the
downfall of a great man b : a serious
drama typically describing a conflict between the protagonist and a
superior force (as destiny) and
having a sorrowful or disastrous conclusion that excites pity or
terror c : the literary genre of
tragic dramas
2 a : a disastrous event : CALAMITY b : MISFORTUNE
3 : tragic quality or element

http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=tragedy

Cf. ...

"A screaming comes across the sky"?

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