VL-IV p29

[Michael Bailey]

Dave Monroe wrote:
>
>  But having hosted a bit of the last VL reading ...
>

and a perky one it seems to've been:

from jbor (fair usage quote, jbor was lambasting Mike Weaver)
The novel ends, history seemingly replaying itself in a loop, with the
daughter and heir of this glorious American "left" heritage lying awake as
the midnight fast approaches, calling out for the "fascist" patriarch to
come back and claim her as his own: "Come on, come in. I don't care. Take me
anyplace you want." Funny? Mild criticism? Yeah, right.

from terrance (also laying into the hapless Mike Weaver):
> (Mike Weaver)
> A thing about fairy tales is they have their roots in human realities and
> the thing about Pynchon's novels is that their roots are in the realities
> of US society, history, politics, culture etc etc. They can be examined and
> enjoyed in many different ways.

Just what I suspected, you skip most of the book and examine only those
parts that you enjoy. Hence your partial and distorted reading. That's
not fair to the author.  Moreover, any good reader of fiction will tell
you that nothing is less enjoyable than reading a novel, say, VL, with
the preconceived notion that it is a denunciation of "Fascist
Capitalism." A work of art, a novel, like VL, is invariably the creation
of a new world. The first thing you need to do to enjoy a novel like VL
is to follow your Alice, go with your Prufrock, take a ride on that
happy horse hurling hilariously heavenward  with Baron Von Munchausen
and then, and only then, after you have taken tea and cakes and ices
with Mad Hatters and Mona Lisas, you may study it's contours, textures
and brush strokes, it's music and magic and madness, its textures and
contours ...and draw disarms and schematics ... and then connection to
other worlds and other arts and sciences.

and here is Mike Weaver in his own write, laying into David Morris:
Sasha's fear is the
healthy self doubt which reminds us that the We/They tension is as much an
internal struggle as it is social one. It is not as the likes of Dave
Morris would have it, that We are They

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well I think it's pejorative, when they call you "the likes of"...

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"Feliz Navidad"