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Robert Mahnke
robert_mahnke at earthlink.net
Wed Jul 23 09:02:05 CDT 2008
Sorry: In the first line, that should be "thought Eigenvalue".
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> Robert Mahnke:
> I saw this last night and thought it had curious echoes of AtD:
>
> Perhaps history in this century, though Eigenvalue, is rippled
> with gathers in its fabric such that if we are situated, as
> Stencil seemed to be, at the bottom of a fold, its impossible
> to determine warp, woof or pattern anywhere else. By virtue,
> however, of existing in one gather it is assumed there are
> others, compartmented off into sinuous cycles each of which
> come to assume greater importance than the weave itself and
> destroy any continuity. Thus it is that we are charmed by the
> funny-looking automobiles of the 30s, the curious fashions of
> the 20s, the peculiar moral habits of our grandparents. We
> produce and attend musical comedies about them and are
> conned into a false memory, a phony nostalgia about what
> they were. We are accordingly lost to any sense of a
> continuous tradition. Perhaps if we lived on a crest, things
> would be different. We could at least see.
>
> V. 155-56 (1986 ed.).
>
>And strong echos of Julius Evola as well:
>
> Modern civilization stands on one side and on the other
> the entirety of all the civilizations that have preceded it
> (for the West, we can put the dividing line at the end of
> the Middle Ages). At this point the rupture is complete.
> Apart from the multitudinous variety of its forms,
> premodern civilization, which we might as well call
> "traditional," means something quite different. For
> there are two worlds, one of which has separated
> itself by cutting off nearly every contact with the past.
> For the great majority of moderns, that means any
> possibility of understanding the traditional world has
> been completely lost.
>
> "The Hermetic Tradition", Julius Evola, page 14
>
> Mark Kohut:
> Is it a metaphor for we readers looking at History
> (the past)....if we had looked at it rightly, it would
> have been different?.....Since we have NOT seen
> History correctly, it has changed the present?
>
> a different path.....He remembers bi-location........
> Roswell is almost annoyed when Lew questions
> him about the subject's possible other lived lives
> .............Of course that is possible, knows Roswell.
>
>Yup, Area 51 revisited:
>"Scully said to Muldar:
>"Get me a Nun!"
>
>I mean, let us not forget the incredible wealth of cheap tricks
>and bottom bracket puns OBA employsbilocation* is also
>a cheap trick, thus "Roswell." Pynchon is no mere satirist,
>he's a satirist devoted to Road Runner cartoons and really
>bad puns. The fabric of time [more like a chunk of Iceland
>Spar, come to think of it] is trespassed by anachronism
>everywhere"Burgher King" anyone?and on some level
>Yashmeen, Lew and Cyprian are trespassers from our time.
>
>*Echoing "Nick DangerThird Eye in: 'Cut 'Em Off at the Past'",
>where discontinunities in the fabric of time form the center of
>the plot and the program ends with an interruption from FDR,
>announcing the United States' complete and total surrender
>to the Japanese. As the "NIck Danger" resumes we hear
>Nicky-nick-nick-nick-nick say:
>
> The great prince issues commands,
> Founds states, vests families with fiefs.
> Inferior people should not be employed.
>
>. . . .from Richard Wilhelm's translation from the original Chinese of
>"The Army" from the I Ching, OBA reiterating the shared theme of
>absurdist resistancea hallmark of both Pynchon and the Firesign
>Theater.
>
> 7. Shih / The Army
> -- --
> -- -- above K'un The Receptive, Earth
> -- --
> -- --
> ----- below K'an The Abysmal, Water
> -- --
> The Judgement
> The Army. The army needs perseverance
> And a strong man.
> Good fortune without blame.
> The Image
> In the middle of the earth is water:
> The image of the Army.
> Thus the superior man increases his masses
> By generosity toward the people.
> The Lines
> Six at the beginning means:
> An army must set forth in proper order.
> If the order is not good, misfortune threatens.
> () Nine in the second place means:
> In the midst of the army.
> Good fortune. No blame.
> The king bestows a triple decoration.
> Six in the third place means:
> Perchance the army carries corpses in the wagon.
> Misfortune.
> Six in the fourth place means:
> The army retreats. No blame.
> () Six in the fifth place means:
> There is game in the field.
> It furthers one to catch it.
> Without blame.
> Let the eldest lead the army.
> The younger transports corpses;
> Then perseverance brings misfortune.
> Six at the top means:
> The great prince issues commands,
> Founds states, vests families with fiefs.
> Inferior people should not be employed.
>
>http://www.religiousworlds.com/taoism/ichingtx.html
>.
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