Fw: V., a peace sign...........

[Mark Kohut]

--- On Sun, 7/27/08, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
> Subject: V., a peace sign...........
> To: "Ian Livingston" <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
> Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 6:56 PM
> More in a minute but Yes, I too have researched the peace
> sign....a V of course.....(which I think may be part of
> TRPs meaning to V. )............
> Aleister Crowley, one bad boy who one p-lister knows the
> work of well and 
> thinks is oft alluded-to in AtD, also claims to have
> invented the peace
> sign........................................
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 7/27/08, Ian Livingston
> <igrlivingston at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: The 85 Weirdest, Day 69: Thomas Pynchon
> > To: "Dave Monroe"
> <against.the.dave at gmail.com>, "pynchon -l"
> <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> > Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 5:29 PM
> > More prized
> > than read, Pynchon will likely go down in history
> famed as
> > the guy who
> > played himself on The Simpsons with a bag over his
> head.
> > 
> > You know, Herman Melville, too, was despised by the
> critics
> > and the
> > uneducated mob.  if it weren't for a few people
> who
> > were able to get beyond
> > the point of trying to make something brilliant seem
> lame
> > so they could look
> > smart, Melville might have fallen into oblivion for
> much
> > longer than he
> > did.  The self-centered mind sees little of the world.
> 
> > "Weird" might be
> > seen as a great compliment from someone who sees no
> further
> > than the t.v.
> > Of course, it is true that few people grok Melville
> even
> > today.  But he
> > remains the grand man of American fiction and more
> people
> > have heard of the
> > white whale than any of Melville's contemporaries
> would
> > have dreamed
> > possible.
> > 
> > And I do believe that TRP has given us metaphors that
> will
> > long outlive his
> > detractors or memory of who they were.  Has anyone
> > researched the history,
> > for example of the "peace sign"?  Of course,
> on
> > Churchill's hand it was a
> > V-for victory, but it was next taken up by anti-nuke
> > radicals in London in
> > the late fifties.  It was from there it filtered into
> the
> > popular non-verbal
> > lexicon.  How much metaphorical breadth will the V
> accrue
> > in our lives?  In
> > the generations that follow us?  How much of its depth
> will
> > be revealed?
> > 
> > On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Dave Monroe
> > <against.the.dave at gmail.com>wrote:
> > 
> > > Weird Tales
> > > Sat 26 Jul 2008
> > > The 85 Weirdest, Day 69: Thomas Pynchon
> > >
> > > The 85th anniversary issue of Weird Tales
> features our
> > big list of
> > > "The 85 Weirdest Storytellers of the Past 85
> > Years." We're breaking it
> > > down online, too: one honoree per day, in no
> > particular order, for 85
> > > days!
> > >
> > > If not for space and time, everything would
> happen all
> > at once. Maybe
> > > that's what happened to the reclusive THOMAS
> > PYNCHON (1937– ) decades
> > > ago, as his books are chock-full of everything.
> > Anarchism, Boy's Own
> > > fiction, Tesla, the aether, very very smart dogs,
> the
> > Hollow Earth,
> > > and dirigibles — and that's just in his
> latest
> > novel. More prized
> > > than read, Pynchon will likely go down in history
> > famed as the guy who
> > > played himself on The Simpsons with a bag over
> his
> > head.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://weirdtales.net/wordpress/2008/07/26/the-85-weirdest-day-69-thomas-pynchon/
> > >
> > >