AtD (37) p. 1041: toilets, money, shit, easy sex, the Hollywoodization of History?

[Mark Kohut]

Ian Livingston wrote:
There surely are links, though.  The 'scandalous' behavior of actors on and off screen attracts ordinary folk most unreasonably.  This could indeed be symptomatic of shadow elements:  we are fascinated by that in others which we find most intolerable in ourselves.


--- On Sun, 7/20/08, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: AtD (37) p. 1041: toilets, money, shit, easy sex, the Hollywoodization of History?
> To: markekohut at yahoo.com, "pynchon -l" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 2:47 PM
> Shadow factories: great phrase for a motion picture
> production company, yes?
> What Jung's 'shadow' concept has come to in
> Hollywood America?
> 
> Yes, this is a perfect phrase for Hollywood, but I'd be
> more inclined to
> think of Plato here than Jung.  These are shadows cast up
> against the wall
> of the cave, whereas the Jungian shadow has more to do with
> personality
> traits sublimated through denial and rejection of the
> content.  There surely
> are links, though.  The 'scandalous' behavior of
> actors on and off screen
> attracts ordinary folk most unreasonably.  This could
> indeed be symptomatic
> of shadow elements:  we are fascinated by that in others
> which we find most
> intolerable in ourselves.
> 
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Mark Kohut
> <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > line 16: "in the toilets of the
> wealthy".....Cf. that harmonica chasing in
> > GR....and the sewers of V....... See upcoming toilet
> reading scene in this
> > chapter. Cf. linkage, out of Norman O. Brown's
> "Life Against Death" surely,
> > of money and shit.
> >
> > Hollywood is worse than Chicago! Sex is easy and no
> strings. See Alienist
> > Ghloix on the p-wiki
> > if necessary.
> > Now, here in Hollywood, those lawfolk ''who
> worked both sides" could settle
> > down with their all-American brides and turn their bad
> deeds into
> > entertainment! See the future of such since.
> Pervasive.
> >
> >
> > Shadow factories: great phrase for a motion picture
> production company,
> > yes? What Jung's 'shadow' concept has come
> to in Hollywood America?
> >
> >
> >
> > Hollywoodization of history: "the wild ancient
> days ...turned into harmless
> > packages of flickering entertainment."
> >
> >
> >
> > Lew never thought he'd see the day!   
> Straight-seeing Lou thinking against
> > the day.
> >
> >
> >
> >  Miss Pomidore=Tomato
> >
> >
> >
> >