atdtda: pp 886-887 threesome

Bekah Bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net
Fri May 2 22:06:19 CDT 2008


Brief new section:

886.28 - .30      Reef:   "Happens in jail sometimes, ... things just  
slide into that old triangle of two parents and a kid, without much  
plannin' it out."

* How would Reef know about this arrangement occurring  in jail?  I  
believe Frank went to jail but not Reef.

*  relationships as triangles and relationships as jails
*  two parents and one kid  is a triangle

Does this parents child triangle refer to Yashmeen,  Reef and  
Cyprian?  Or is it Yashmeen,  Reef and the unborn?  (except that  
Yashmeen doesn't know she's pregnant  yet)

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886.35 -  " 'I might have felt free to leave once, '  Reef said.  But  
he wasn't about to look anybody in the eye."

* was he ever "free" to leave?
and
* he did leave a similar situation once before


(page break)


887. 5 -    "As if Reef had arrived as an agent of transfiguring -  
not so much of as against his dogged re-penetrations - her face,  
which Cyprian had once kept, like a photograph folded securely in  
everyday memory, as a charm against Balkan misfortune, now veiled  
with sweat, grew in passion fiercely exquisite, revealing to him, as  
if by rays newly discovered, the face of another unsuspected woman.  
Not possesed so much as evicted, for some unstated use, by forces  
which had never seen reason to declare themselves."

* I think this is the face of pregnancy and motherhood -  two faces  
of women and all that - similar to the Madonna/Whore thing except  
coming from Cyprian it may be a bit twisted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna-whore_complex

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887.13  Cyprian:   "Far away in the back-country of his spirit,  
perhaps in the co-conscious one heard them on about these days in  
fashionable circles, he felt something begin to shift."

* Co-conscious -
" mental processes outside the main stream of consciousness but  
sometimes available to it"
http://medical.merriam-webster.com/medical/coconscious


The co-conscious is discussed by the American psychologist and  
Pragmatist, William James, in several places:

"A Pluralistic Universe"  (Hibbert Lectures - published 1909)  in the  
chapter called "The Continuity of Experience"  in the same work:


"Every bit of us at every moment is part and parcel of a wider self, it
quivers along various radii like the wind-rose on a compass, and the
actual in it is continuously one with possibles not yet in our present
sight.[8] And just as we are co-conscious with our own momentary
margin, may not we ourselves form the margin of some more really
central self in things which is co-conscious with the whole of us? May
not you and I be confluent in a higher consciousness, and confluently
active there, tho we now know it not?"

and

  "The absolute is not the impossible being I once thought it. Mental  
facts
do function both singly and together, at once, and we finite minds may s
imultaneously be co-conscious with one another in a superhuman  
intelligence."
Also in -

"A World of Pure Experience" (1904)

"The conjunctive relation that has given most trouble to philosophy  
is the co-conscious transition, so to call it, by which one  
experience passes into another when both belong to the same self. My  
experiences and your experiences are 'with' each other in various  
external ways, but mine pass into mine, and yours pass into yours in  
a way in which yours and mine never pass into one another. Within  
each of our personal histories, subject, object, interest and purpose  
are continuous or may be continuous."
http://psychclassics.yorku.ca/James/experience.htm


Plus - as a special added attraction -  a work of interesting  
contemporary art:  "Coconscious":

http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2140782120067104694wnMszC

* Today the term co-conscious is related to split or multiple  
personality syndrome
http://www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=IJP.023.0039C
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So basically,  yes,  I'd say Cyprian is feeling another major  
personal change coming on.

Bekah




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