atdtda: pp 886-887 threesome
Bekah
Bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net
Fri May 2 22:06:19 CDT 2008
Brief new section:
886.28 - .30 Reef: "Happens in jail sometimes, ... things just
slide into that old triangle of two parents and a kid, without much
plannin' it out."
* How would Reef know about this arrangement occurring in jail? I
believe Frank went to jail but not Reef.
* relationships as triangles and relationships as jails
* two parents and one kid is a triangle
Does this parents child triangle refer to Yashmeen, Reef and
Cyprian? Or is it Yashmeen, Reef and the unborn? (except that
Yashmeen doesn't know she's pregnant yet)
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886.35 - " 'I might have felt free to leave once, ' Reef said. But
he wasn't about to look anybody in the eye."
* was he ever "free" to leave?
and
* he did leave a similar situation once before
(page break)
887. 5 - "As if Reef had arrived as an agent of transfiguring -
not so much of as against his dogged re-penetrations - her face,
which Cyprian had once kept, like a photograph folded securely in
everyday memory, as a charm against Balkan misfortune, now veiled
with sweat, grew in passion fiercely exquisite, revealing to him, as
if by rays newly discovered, the face of another unsuspected woman.
Not possesed so much as evicted, for some unstated use, by forces
which had never seen reason to declare themselves."
* I think this is the face of pregnancy and motherhood - two faces
of women and all that - similar to the Madonna/Whore thing except
coming from Cyprian it may be a bit twisted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna-whore_complex
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887.13 Cyprian: "Far away in the back-country of his spirit,
perhaps in the co-conscious one heard them on about these days in
fashionable circles, he felt something begin to shift."
* Co-conscious -
" mental processes outside the main stream of consciousness but
sometimes available to it"
http://medical.merriam-webster.com/medical/coconscious
The co-conscious is discussed by the American psychologist and
Pragmatist, William James, in several places:
"A Pluralistic Universe" (Hibbert Lectures - published 1909) in the
chapter called "The Continuity of Experience" in the same work:
"Every bit of us at every moment is part and parcel of a wider self, it
quivers along various radii like the wind-rose on a compass, and the
actual in it is continuously one with possibles not yet in our present
sight.[8] And just as we are co-conscious with our own momentary
margin, may not we ourselves form the margin of some more really
central self in things which is co-conscious with the whole of us? May
not you and I be confluent in a higher consciousness, and confluently
active there, tho we now know it not?"
and
"The absolute is not the impossible being I once thought it. Mental
facts
do function both singly and together, at once, and we finite minds may s
imultaneously be co-conscious with one another in a superhuman
intelligence."
Also in -
"A World of Pure Experience" (1904)
"The conjunctive relation that has given most trouble to philosophy
is the co-conscious transition, so to call it, by which one
experience passes into another when both belong to the same self. My
experiences and your experiences are 'with' each other in various
external ways, but mine pass into mine, and yours pass into yours in
a way in which yours and mine never pass into one another. Within
each of our personal histories, subject, object, interest and purpose
are continuous or may be continuous."
http://psychclassics.yorku.ca/James/experience.htm
Plus - as a special added attraction - a work of interesting
contemporary art: "Coconscious":
http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2140782120067104694wnMszC
* Today the term co-conscious is related to split or multiple
personality syndrome
http://www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=IJP.023.0039C
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So basically, yes, I'd say Cyprian is feeling another major
personal change coming on.
Bekah
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