atdtda:31 pgs 887-888 Reef's dream

[Bekah]

Yes,  I've been to that whole area (4 Corners, generally) several  
times but I can't remember the details of each place I visited -  
there is really quite a lot to see out there - depends on which road  
you're taking.     I remember 4 Corners distinctly as it's really  
different and I have pictures in my mind of at least 3 or 4 other  
places in the 4 Corners area.  As close as Wiki comes is:  http:// 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ute_Mountain

I found McElmo Canyon on a Google terrain map using a search for  
McElmo, Canyon, USA  It's about 3 miles east of the Utah border and  
25 miles north of the New Mexico border.    Hard tellin' how far the  
Canyon actually extends - they kind of drift into each other more  
like areas.

McElmo is the name of a year-round creek which runs through what is  
known as the McElmo Canyon.  About the name,  I found what you found  
-  thanks.   :-)

 From my other little searching around:

The McElmo area is very large - miles and miles - with many things to  
see.  There is a "road" called the Trail of the Ancients which winds  
around a lot of this area and has little roads going off it.  One  
little off-shoot goes up into McElmo Canyon to get to the McElmo  
Canyon Trailhead and then to Sand Canyon Pueblo and Castle Rock  
Pueblo.  There are some drawings on the walls there:   (My bet is on  
the Castle Rock Pueblo - or nearby - as the site Reef is referring to  
- where he slept with Webb's body and read the Chums book.)

http://www.crowcanyon.org/educationproducts/ElecFieldTrip_CRP/ 
occupied.asp
Large and detailed archeological site:
  http://www.crowcanyon.org/ResearchReports/CastleRock/Text/ 
crpw_contentsvolume.asp

Bekah


On May 4, 2008, at 12:46 AM, Michael Bailey wrote:

> Thanks for the refs.  It's an interesting area.  Didn't you
> say that you `had been to that area at one time?
>
> What I meant, though, was who was the McElmo dude it
> seems to have been named after.  I get a mild cognitive
> dissonance from an area filled with Native American (or earlier?)
> relics being named after a Scot.
>
> google answers has this:
> ==========
> From Basin to Peak: An Explorer's Companion to the Colorado-New Mexico
> San Juan Basin
> by Wesley M. Howe
>
> pg 117-118:
>
> McElmo Canyon -- A gulch on the west edge of Montezuma County that
> extens into Utah.  The site of a 1911 basin oil strike, it is named
> after a white pioneer prospector who stopped at a spting in the canyon
> to get a drink and died there of tuberculosis.  His partner buried him
> in the canyon.
> ==========
>
>
> The reference for the above information is given as:
>
> Freeman, Ira S.  A History of Montezuma County, Colorado.  Boulder:
> Johnson Publishing, 1958
>
>
>
> Bekah <Bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> McElmo was the area of Colorado where the Pueblo Indians lived  
>> (before the
>> Utes and Navajos).  It's the "McElmo Watershed" now.   This is  
>> where Reef
>> traveled bringing Webb's body back to Telluride from Jeshomon.
>>
>> "During the ride back up to  Telluride, among tablelands and  
>> canons and
>> red-rock debris, past the stone farmhouses and fruit orchards and  
>> Mormon
>> spreadds of the McElmo, below ruins hauntd by an ancient people  
>> whose name
>> no one knew, circular towers and cliffside towns abandoned now for  
>> reasons
>> no one would speak of."   (pg 214)
>>
>> a couple sites with some drawing from the Grand Gulch area
>> http://www.utah.com/playgrounds/grand_gulch.htm
>> http://www.gdargaud.net/Climbing/GrandGulch.html
>>
>> Bekah

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