AtD, naming

[Michael Bailey]

then too, we are outsiders to the Gnostic tradition (or at least I am)
-- maybe what they meant wasn't quite as intense as we make it out to be.

Archie Bunker thought there was a Jewish holiday where they
would eat young kippers.

Father Guido Sarducci once said, something like, in the monastery
it isn't all high ceremony all the time.
the guys relax and talk informally, like "I got your bottle of wine right here"

maybe light was code word for orgasm in their system,
or there is a whole secret corpus of practical applications
that if it had survived would show they weren't really humorless fanatics
but were just portrayed that way by the Church that slew them...

I took out a tape from the library about some castle in the Languedoc
region of France (had a history teaching fellow who said that word
"Languedoc" so sensuously I can hear it still) apparently they were
all gnostic-type heretics there and the Church came in and
slaughtered them by the thousands.