ATDTDA (33) - p. 924-6 peyote

[Bekah]

Well,  I don't know  if there's any one answer for who are the  
Trespassers.  Anything that has a boundary or a border, so to speak,   
manmade or natural,  has by definition, a  trespassable aspect.    
Refugees trespass. Spies trespass.   Greedy capitalists trespass.  
Adulterers trespass. Inventors trespass. Novelists and readers  
possibly trespass.  Forgive us our trespasses.

I think  the "borders" of time and space,  probably spirituality and  
maybe even love are trespassed in AtD. And the trespassers are from  
the past,  from contemporary geography, from the future or even,  
possibly,  from imagination (although that last one's a stretch).    
This could be a huge theme.

Bekah

On May 22, 2008, at 2:43 AM, Mark Kohut wrote:

> The Trespassers are linked with the speeded-up technology of  
> modernity....Bi-plane,
> railroads..........??
> I suggest time is what is transgressed. trespassed on, so to speak.
>
> David Payne <dpayne1912 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Or could the trespassers be in Frank's present: the archaeologists  
> digging up sacred ruins -- a type of trespassing by "time  
> travelers" of a different sort?
>
> Note that the winged beasts in Frank's vision were manifested by  
> the appearance of the bi-plane (again, tresspassing in Frank's  
> present), and note, too, a few pages later (930): "It [railway]  
> penetrated, it broke apart cities [....]"
>
> Which makes Frank's present echoic of Wren's theory of the  
> displacement of the peoples of Southwest by winged beasts and  
> snakes (railway?). (And future transgressions, as noted by Laura,  
> are more echoes?)
>
> Frank's vision feels like some sort of "bi-location" of time -- two  
> different times occurring simultaneously -- the city of the past  
> and the tresspassers of today....
>
> I feel like the Chums, way back on page 416 trying to decide who  
> the Trespasser are!
>
>
> Mark wrote:
>
> > We have transgressed..........................we creators/victims  
> of modernity
> > who NOW regret...???
> >
> >> kelber at mindspring.com wrote:
> >> The Trespassers are us, resource-poor, seeking to pillage the  
> past (start with fossil fuels and take it from there). Evilly  
> rapacious, but sympathetic in their/our nostalgia and grief over  
> what's been lost?
>
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