Mormons and Aztecs (Was ATDTDA (33) - p. 927-30 - railroads)

David Payne dpayne1912 at hotmail.com
Fri May 23 09:27:09 CDT 2008


Narrative time, we're at 1911, and according to the Wiki:

"In 1911, Hopi adherents [i.e., Mormon converts] and traditionalists fought a brief civil war, permanently splitting the group between those remaining at the Mesas and those now settled at Tuba City, AZ." (http://against-the-day.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=ATD_919-945 -- see p. 928)

While trying to verify this, I stumbled across this tangentially-related tid-bit:

"Hopi Prophecy: The end of all Hopi ceremonialism will come when a 'Kachina' removes his mask during a dance in the plaza before uninitiated children [the general public]. For a while there will be no more ceremonies, no more faith. Then Oraibi will be rejuvenated with its faith and ceremonies, marking the start of a new cycle of Hopi life.

"World War III will be started by those peoples who first revealed the light (the divine wisdom or intelligence) in the other old countries (India, China, Islamic Nations, Africa.) 

"The United States will be destroyed, land and people, by atomic bombs and radioactivity."

(See: http://www.welcomehome.org/rainbow/prophecy/hopi1.html)

- dave

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On Fri, 23 May 2008 (06:05:38 -0700), Bekah (Bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net) wrote:


> The Mormons were probably refugees up until the post Civil War and
> mining boom. The railroad reached intercontinental status in 1869
> near Provo. And in 1875 or so they declared polygamy outdated (or
> something like that) so they could join the Union as a state. At
> some point - (???) the Mormons were no longer refugees and became
> the invading force. Some moved as refugees to Mexico (as has been
> noted earlier) but most returned later.
>
> Theologically the Mormons are sympathetic to the American Indians -
> regard them as Lost Tribes or something. Realistically they were
> just about as imperialistic as anyone - first they want a little
> colony, then they want the mineral rich kingdom.
>
> Refugees or Trespassers - yes, it's all very murky indeed.


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