np congratulations

[Mark Kohut]

I have been baffled by the Repubs---McCain and Bush---being the ones to 
speak of the historic importance of the election of an African-American
and go back and forth from thinking, "They are the ones who can, as graciously-stating losers, not for many Dems--for whom it would be unseemly, maybe even perceived to be 'racist' in emphasis"......
And thinking They [Repubs] say that instead of saying the man with the best vision and character won................


--- On Thu, 11/6/08, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: np congratulations
> To: "Joe Allonby" <joeallonby at gmail.com>
> Cc: kelber at mindspring.com, pynchon-l at waste.org
> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 8:55 AM
> Bernard Avishai:
> 
> I confess a certain impatience, on this poignant day, with
> all the
> earnest talk about how America achieved something
> remarkable yesterday
> by electing our first African-American president, as if the
> choice has
> been about race all along. I do not mean to diminish an
> historic
> first, like electing a Catholic in 1960; I, too, choked-up
> when John
> Lewis spoke. But relief today is not about Americans
> choosing an
> obviously black man over a white man, which proves we can
> come to
> terms with our past. It is about our choosing an obviously
> brilliant,
> reciprocal man over a thick, cynical one--a man who
> articulates a
> coherent vision of global commonwealth over someone
> advancing vague,
> military patriotism--which proves we can come to terms with
> our
> future.
> 
> http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/11/05/the_content_of_his_character/
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Joe Allonby
> <joeallonby at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I would love for you to be proven wrong as well.
> >
> > But after all of the unadulterated bullshit that has
> disgraced this nation,I
> > have to take a moment to revel.
> >
> > And he can pronounce "nuclear".
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 6:44 PM,
> <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> It's an incredibly moving moment in American
> history, when you consider
> >> all that's come before, from slavery through
> the civil rights movement, and
> >> all of the institutionalized racism that exists in
> every facet of American
> >> life. But Obama is a pragmatic, centrist
> politician (he wouldn't have had a
> >> chance of being elected, otherwise), and promises
> to be somewhat of a rehash
> >> of the Clinton administration (as his choice of
> Chief of Staff suggests).
> >>  His campaign promises to move troops from Iraq to
> Afghanistan and possibly,
> >> Pakistan, also don't bode well for him as a
> transformative leader, in terms
> >> of his actual policies.  I'd certainly love to
> be proven wrong, though.
> >>
> >> Laura
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Thomas Eckhardt
> <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de>
> >> >Sent: Nov 5, 2008 3:02 PM
> >> >To: Otto <ottosell at googlemail.com>
> >> >Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> >> >Subject: Re: np congratulations
> >> >
> >> >I have my reservations about Obama, but this
> is amazing on so many
> >> >levels. Congratulations indeed.
> >> >
> >> >Thomas
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Otto schrieb:
> >> >> you did it ... great!
> >> >>
> >> >> Otto
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >