Deuce Kindred

[Johnny Marr]

Proving that most musicians are apolitical - beyond the blindingly obvious
political movements of the day, most of them take no interest in the
legislative and philosophical discussions de nos jours and are happy for the
patronage of whoever's rich and powerful and meets them first, be they
Republican, Democrat or Ralph Nader (Ok, that might be an exaggeration too
far ...).
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Joe Allonby <joeallonby at gmail.com> wrote:

> Didn't Stevie Ray Vaughan or B B King give him a monogrammed guitar?
> Proving that music and assholery have a linked tradition continuing to this
> very day.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Johnny Marr <marrja at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Although from what I remember of the BBC documentary I saw a few months
>> ago - wasn't he given a Bible when he was terminally ill, leading him to
>> discover Christianity and claim his life had been changed by reading The
>> Book, only for his friends to posthumously discover that he'd never even
>> taken the covering off it? Fooling people til the very last ...
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Joe Allonby <joeallonby at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Rove considered him a guru. He made Willie Horton a household name.
>>> Supposedly, he had a deathbed repentance.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Johnny Marr <marrja at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I thought exactly the same thing.
>>>> Quite a terrifying man; the programme presents him as amoral, but that
>>>> might be slightly generous for someone so willing to flirt with the dark
>>>> side. Whether he'd still be successful today remains an interesting
>>>> conterfactual question: is his brand of politics outdated and discredited or
>>>> was he the arch practitioner who would be outmanouevering everybody else? I
>>>> suspect there'd be a bit more scepticism and resistance but fear that he'd
>>>> still be an effective political weapon. He was meant to be thinking of
>>>> spreading allegations about Clinton fathering illegitimate children ...
>>>>
>>>>   On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Joe Allonby <joeallonby at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I never noticed how much he looked like Michael J Fox, bad guitar
>>>>> playing and all.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:07 PM, <bandwraith at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you missed the Frontline report on Lee Atwater you should seek
>>>>>> it out. It was terrific. About half way through I realized that he was
>>>>>> at least one of the models for, targets of, the Kindred
>>>>>> characterization.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/atwater/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oddly, Atwater reminded me, physically, of another, more mildly
>>>>>> annoying characterization- of the 1980's this time:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_P._Keaton
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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