Another way to categorize TRPs oeuvre

[Michael Bailey]

Let's not beat up on pig.  Didn't Benny himself do a teenage girl on a
pool table in one scene?
(must...get...copy...of...V.)

Pig, OTOH, backed off due to a sense of obligation.




On 10/3/08, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>  Whatever counter-culture flirting TRP was doing, he did call those characters The Whole Sick Crew.
>
>  First time I read V., decades ago, when I was as young as the characters,
>  I stopped at the chapter where Pig acts worse than a "pig." I thought I was supposed to identify with them hip guys. And didn't.
>
>  Years later, I came back and got it closer to right, I think.
>
>  Satirizing in TRP runs even deeper than paranoia, imho.
>
>  --- On Fri, 10/3/08, kelber at mindspring.com <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>  > From: kelber at mindspring.com <kelber at mindspring.com>
>
> > Subject: Re: Another way to categorize TRPs oeuvre
>
> > To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>
> > Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 4:07 PM
>
> > In V, TRP was trying to find his voice and was flirting with
>  > not just writing about the hipster counter-culture, but
>  > BEING a hipster counter-culture writer (which was a pretty
>  > sexist scene at the time -  Norman Mailer, Joseph Heller,
>  > etc.).  Fortunately, he moved on.
>  >
>  > Laura
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > >From: David Patty <navan.ghee at gmail.com>
>  > >Sent: Oct 3, 2008 3:52 PM
>  > >To: Heikki Raudaskoski <hraudask at sun3.oulu.fi>
>  > >Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>  > >Subject: Re: Another way to categorize TRPs oeuvre
>  > >
>  > >Having just finished 'V.' and poring over Kerry
>  > Grant's companion volume
>  > >now, I agree w/ the assessment of the gender relations
>  > in the work being
>  > >less than embarrassing--  if anything, they're
>  > fairly accurate in describing
>  > >the changing / conflicting mores, morals & sexual
>  > codes of the times &
>  > >places described.  The Pynchon behind 'V.' was
>  > certainly a few thousand
>  > >steps ahead of his one-time hero Kerouac when it came
>  > to talking honestly
>  > >about love & lust...  Much more so than the younger
>  > man who wrote
>  > >'Low-Lands'.
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