From airplane to starship...

[Henry]

Hopper was an innocent in Easy Writer and also in Apocalypse Now, but is forte is as an edgy egotistical baddy, e.g. Blue Velvet, so why is anyone surprised that he's an independent, i.e. non-Holywood, type conservative?  Why assume that counter-culture=left-wing?  Many people that are one are not the other! And then there are some "libertarians" such as Barry Goldwater, who are really neither and both.

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From: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org [mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org] On Behalf Of kelber at mindspring.com
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 12:44 PM
To: pynchon-l at waste.org
Subject: Re: From airplane to starship...

Dennis Hopper's latest flick was the right-wing diatribe, American Carol, so I guess the counter-culture sheen's long gone.

Laura

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>From: bandwraith at aol.com
>Sent: Oct 23, 2008 7:15 AM
>To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>Subject: Re: From airplane to starship...
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>The only way I could see _Easy Rider_ being
>worth the price of admission, and it didn't
>occur to me until years later- maybe about
>the time Ginsberg went on ?Dick Cavitt?
>with a briefcase full of documents- was seeing
>Billy and Wyatt as figures for the CIA. The link
>begins at the beginning- raising huge amounts
>of off the books cash via SoCal drug sales. The
>vamping of traditional American archetypes and the
>"penetration" and destabilization  of "alien"
>cultures, followed by taking themselves too
>seriously, also came to mind. I don't think any of
>that is what Hopper had in mind, but with
>Southern on board, who knows?
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: bandwraith at aol.com
>To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>Sent: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 9:56 am
>Subject: Re: From airplane to starship...
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>
>Call me a traditionalist. I prefer Butch and Sundance to Billy and 
>Wyatt. 
>Slim Pickens = Billy, Henry Green = Wyatt? I'm not familiar with Green. 
>Terry Southern- unique. 
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>-----Original Message----- 
>From: malignd at aol.com 
>To: pynchon-l at waste.org 
>Sent: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 4:24 pm 
>Subject: Re: From airplane to starship... 
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>I seem to recall Crosby saying once that his relationship with McGuinn 
>was the model 
>for the relationship between Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper in Easy 
>Rider although, 
>as the screenplay was written by (wasn't it?) Terry Southern, more 
>likely the models 
>were Henry Green and Slim Pickens. 
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