Velvet Underground
kelber at mindspring.com
kelber at mindspring.com
Sun Apr 26 08:49:52 CDT 2009
Have to group myself with Bekah and Robin. Think they're OK but not great. Influential, I guess. Mu husband is a huge fan. He used to rock our infant son to sleep while playing VU music. Our son is now a classical pianist and opera enthusiast with contempt for rock music. Ought I to patent the system?
Laura
-----Original Message-----
>From: Robin Landseadel <robinlandseadel at comcast.net>
>Sent: Apr 25, 2009 6:13 PM
>To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>Subject: Re: Velvet Underground
>
> Hippies
> 1. Young middle-class whites who had rejected
> the lifestyle of their parents. Live on as crusties.
>
>http://users.bathspa.ac.uk/sprm1/files/late%2060s%20-%20the%20dark%20side.PDF
>
>FWIW, really don't care all that much about Velvet Underground. But I
>just loves that Lester Bangs' ranting on & on about Lou Reed's "Metal
>Machine Music" Oooh, yeah, baby baby:
>
> In case you just got here or think Metal Machine Music refers to
> something in the neighborhood of Bad Company, let me briefly
> explain that what we have here is a one-hour two-record set of
> nothing, absolutely nothing but screaming feedback noise
> recorded at various frequencies, played back against various
> other noise layers, split down the middle into two totally
> separate channels of utterly inhuman shrieks and hisses, and
> sold to an audience that was, to put it as mildly as possible,
> unprepared for it. Because sentient humans simply find it
> impossible not to vacate any room where it is playing. With
> certain isolated exceptions: mutants, mental patients, shriek
> freaks, masochists, sadists, amphetamine addicts, hate buffs,
> drug-numbed weirdos too walled off by chemicals to feel
> anything, other people whose nervous systems are already so
> bent out of shape that it sounds perfectly acceptable, the last
> category possibly including the author of this article, who likes
> Metal Machine Music so much that he acquired (did not buy) an
> 8-track RCA cartridge (on which are imprinted the words
> "SPECIAL VALUE!") so that he can listen to it in his car.
>
> The release of Metal Machine Music is nothing if not an event in
> the history of the recording industry, and we at Creem are proud
> to celebrate it. Not since the halcyon days of Bruce Springsteen
> has there been a public so divided. (That 98 % of them are on
> one side glowering and spitting at the other 2 percent means
> nothing; we at Creem will always stand up for the rights of
> minority groups, and you won't find many groups smaller, nor
> more fervent, than MMM fans.) As of this writing, it looks like
> MMM is gonna be a heavyweight contender in our Creem
> Readers' Poll categories both of "Disappointment of the Year"
> and "Ripoff of the Year." Then again, every once in a while a
> ballot rolls in like that from one Carole Pressler of Rocky River,
> Ohio, who not only voted MMM as all three of the Top Albums of
> 1975, but voted for sides A and D as Top Two Singles of the
> year, and side B as Best Rhythm & Blues Single.
>
> Yes, these people actually exist, and it would be unfair both to
> them and to Lou to star Metal Machine Music in a snuff film.
> Which is exactly what RCA is doing right now. But let's not jump
> the groove, we gots to hear it all. This postmortem begins when I
>get a call from a lovely agent named after a British hypnotic
> sedative who says she is doing free-lance publicity for Lou. . .
>
> From How to Succeed in Torture Without Really Trying,
>Lester Bangs: "Psychotic Reactions & Carburetor Dung", pages 184/185
>
>On Apr 25, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Bekah wrote:
>
>> I hadn't chimed in on this one but here goes -
>>
>> I agree there may be a high correlation between Pynchon readers and
>> Velvet Underground fans but it's not universal. And I'm sure that
>> some kind of nostalgia for the "dark side of the 60s" is part of
>> it. However- I'm one of those others who loves Pynchon's style
>> and themes, etc. but can barely remember Velvet Underground
>> specifics. I don't think I was ever attracted to the dark side of
>> anything. I was close enough to know that it was scary out there.
>> And I'm no Pollyanna but the old "flower-power" attitude was closer
>> to my perspective in the 60s than Velvet Underground. I remember
>> the name - I remember the song Sunday Morning - it just wasn't one
>> of my favorites. Crosby, Stills and Nash did some stuff, too -
>> Paranoia and so on.
>>
>> This is UK oriented but it seems pretty much about right to me:
>> http://users.bathspa.ac.uk/sprm1/files/late%2060s%20-%20the%20dark%20side.PDF
>>
>> Bekah
>> a senior-hippie now (omg
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