(NP) Re: canning worms

[rich]

arrrogance played a part but Rumsfeld's plan to win the war on the
cheap played its part, too.
and his eyes were pbly on Iraq already in the late fall of 2001

Bush loved the special ops guys, the CIA skullduggery--the gloves came
off, the heads were cut and plunked down on spikes, the whole bit

As much as the Taliban in Pakistan is making strides I do not think
they have the power to overthrow the Pakistani military as demoralized
and weary as it is. and from reading folks like Ahmed Rashid much of
Pakistani society do not want the mullah-types in power.
The best scenario would seem to be finding a more politically capable
army general someone with a bit more skill than Musharraff was

rich

On 4/29/09, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> I like your reasoning and insight into their dark souls, but if they
> were out for base vengeance why did they settle for the few guilty
> that they'd captured in Afghanistan instead of the bigger vengeance of
> Bin Ladin and his Taliban enablers?  Rummy's arrogant incompetence?
> Maybe so...
>
> Anyway, at this point Pakistan is clearly the bigger global threat.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Hepzibah Pyncheon
> <misshepzibah at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> They didn't need to establish that presumed link as fact. The brilliantly
>> worded advertising slogan "smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud"
>> did the trick quite succinctly. End of discussion. They could have gotten
>> AZ or KSM to sign a piece of paper, a classic propaganda "confession,"
>> saying whatever was wanted. They didn't need it really, didn't care
>> especially; simple mechanisms like Bush stop at the minimally sufficient
>> assertion----everything more is a waste of time better spent on
>> self-congratulation. All this we are hearing about our government's
>> interrogative motives in torturing these men looks to me like evasive
>> post-rationalization, or at best the cover story they gave as bureaucratic
>> justification to the hirelings doing the work. What they needed was at
>> most a "reason" they could actually write down in a file, and "because we
>> want them to suffer, and we want it on videotape" didn't seem prudent.
>>
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